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    Quote Originally Posted by SixFootScowl View Post
    I like the idea of restricting it to commercial recordings. I guess they can be out of print, as long as some are on the used market. I have gotten some of the niche 'private' label recordings, but typically don't keep them in my regular listening rotations.
    I would say it's quite the opposite for me, keeping the stereo to have a good picture of the orchestral colour and detail, but often coming to the mono live recordings that present the work in a "natural" and often very dramatic portrait for me. Where do the Callas Live recordings stand in here?

    Two examples: the Cologne Live Bellini Sonnambula with Maria Callas won the previous poll, and I often remember Pugg saying that he would not listen to any other Wagner Lohengrin than the Keilberth Bayreuth 1953 (even though it was also a commercial recording).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post
    I would say it's quite the opposite for me, keeping the stereo to have a good picture of the orchestral colour and detail, but often coming to the mono live recordings that present the work in a "natural" and often very dramatic portrait for me. Where do the Callas Live recordings stand in here?

    Two examples: the Cologne Live Bellini Sonnambula with Maria Callas won the previous poll, and I often remember Pugg saying that he would not listen to any other Wagner Lohengrin than the Keilberth Bayreuth 1953 (even though it was also a commercial recording).
    Sorry Granate, the Maria Callas live recordings have all been issued commercially on pressed discs. What I mean by 'private' labels are the likes of Premiere opera or Opera Depot that release recordings on CD-R or similar (as well as download, of course). Andromeda, Myto and other small firms that release pressed CDs I count as commercial, so your Andromeda Forza would qualify.

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    David Poleri -- a name from the past. How terrible that this handsome young tenor with a spectacular spinto voice had his life tragically cut short when his plane hit a mountain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nina foresti View Post
    David Poleri -- a name from the past. How terrible that this handsome young tenor with a spectacular spinto voice had his life tragically cut short when his plane hit a mountain.
    That explains something. I think Walburga Wegner had some bad fame after other live performances in the 50s, but I wondered why didn't Poleri go further.

    If Conte is right, then I didn't get the point of the SixFootScowl post, so anything that has been released on cd would count (for example that Davis Philips Troyens that is still unissued after a very long time).
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    What I mean by 'private' labels are the likes of Premiere opera or Opera Depot that release recordings on CD-R or similar (as well as download, of course). Andromeda, Myto and other small firms that release pressed CDs I count as commercial, so your Andromeda Forza would qualify.

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    The above is exactly what I was thinking when I made my post.
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    I dunno, Operadepot seems like fair game--we certainly spend enough time talking about them. There are a couple of operas where I'd pick Operadepot recordings first, and those recordings are even more easily accessible for people reading the recommendations than some of the rarer out of print stuff I may also be recommending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howlingfantods View Post
    I dunno, Operadepot seems like fair game--we certainly spend enough time talking about them. There are a couple of operas where I'd pick Operadepot recordings first, and those recordings are even more easily accessible for people reading the recommendations than some of the rarer out of print stuff I may also be recommending.
    I am fine with it. I don't want to rock any boats. The main thing is we do the voting and make a final list. There could be some great recordings in the Operadepot et.al. category, and it may be especially useful where there are precious few commercial recordings of a work available.
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    This seems to have fallen under the radar. When are we going to start voting for our favourite recording of each of the top operas we voted on earlier this year?

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    I can hardly wait, but wait I must for this and for a lot of normal societal activities. Oh well. Patience is a virtue they say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SixFootScowl View Post
    I can hardly wait, but wait I must for this and for a lot of normal societal activities. Oh well. Patience is a virtue they say.
    Why can't we do this whilst there is a lock down on?

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    I've been getting busy with many things outside of this, especially my instagram. Also work. It's my fault. I've compromised myself to too many things. I need to find out the time to create the thread and let the voting begin. That means to put another schedule on myself since I'm designing templates to recommend a music album every day. Not to mention to start a new fitness life with a jump rope and make a change in my life.
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    Hello Guys

    I'm now trying to space out from things related to design and video. I'm not in an opera mood at all. A friend has even told me off about my compulsive buying of music. But probably it is time to start developing the Recordings Poll based on the Top 150 list. Because of being busy, I won't really count the results in a post inmediately but I must make sure all the votes are correct.

    Tomorrow I'll put myself to create the excel files for counting the votes, plus my own list of votes based on my notes and writing the opening post and instructions for the poll.

    Will you join me? First week should be dedicated to the Ring. 2 days for the Entire ring, and 2 days for each opera from it. Is it right? I need to check the conclusions we reached again haha.

    Starting next monday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    Why can't we do this whilst there is a lock down on?

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    We can. It's up to the Granate. I know about being busy. I am working full-time at home and don't have time for much fun now, and it seems like even less time than I had before.
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    Ok. I made my voting list for Operas 1-20. It's been demanding.

    The List of rules for the thread is also written down based on the discussion that happened here. Instead of 5 days for the ring and 2 for each Ring Opera, we should do 5 days for the 4 Ring Operas and 2 days for the Ring.

    Is it better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post
    Ok. I made my voting list for Operas 1-20. It's been demanding.

    The List of rules for the thread is also written down based on the discussion that happened here. Instead of 5 days for the ring and 2 for each Ring Opera, we should do 5 days for the 4 Ring Operas and 2 days for the Ring.

    Is it better?
    I don't mind, just make sure that the rules are clearly laid out in the first post for the poll. (As you have done before.)

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