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    I think I'm going to pass. I made a list of just over 100 operas I enjoy, but damned if I could put them in any sort of order, and not sure I even want to try.

    Then I visited the actual thread and I'm even more confused now as to what we are required to do, so am opting out. It looks as if you have your work cut out for you, Granate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsaraslondon View Post
    I think I'm going to pass. I made a list of just over 100 operas I enjoy, but damned if I could put them in any sort of order, and not sure I even want to try.

    Then I visited the actual thread and I'm even more confused now as to what we are required to do, so am opting out. It looks as if you have your work cut out for you, Granate.
    I can put them in order, however the order can change wildly depending on my mood when I compile it! Other people will have to cope with my choosing Rigoletto in my top 20 one week and then replacing it with Macbeth the next!

    I think it might have been more interesting to list our 200 favourites as that gives greater scope for more unusual works to get through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsaraslondon View Post
    Then I visited the actual thread and I'm even more confused now as to what we are required to do, so am opting out. It looks as if you have your work cut out for you, Granate.
    ??????????......

    I'd rather not misunderstand this message. If you don't mind, please explain your point in public or in private. As you please. Other members would not like to vote in this poll and I see, but half of the rules are copied from the 2015 Poll discussed and executed by Faustian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post
    ??????????......

    I'd rather not misunderstand this message. If you don't mind, please explain your point in public or in private. As you please. Other members would not like to vote in this poll and I see, but half of the rules are copied from the 2015 Poll discussed and executed by Faustian.
    I'm sorry. I meant no disrepect to you at all. I just meant that collating all this will take a lot of work. I actually admire you for taking it on.
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    It looks like the new top 10 is going to be made up entirely of 4 composers. Mozart, Puccini, Verdi and Wagner. And Tosca over La bohème? Aida over La traviata? Bleh. I think I prefer both the 2010 and 2015 lists to be honest. There's not even 5 in this new bunch that I'm that crazy about to want to vote for. Sorry, I'm out. But good luck!

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    Ok, but please, keep nominating your 20 most recommended works in next nomination round on Monday. I personally think fans of other eras could be way more pissed than you sound here, but either they they are not among us anymore, they don't know about the running poll or they are polite enough to accept the results as they come. Good luck to you too.
    Last edited by Granate; Nov-30-2019 at 15:42.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    It looks like the new top 10 is going to be made up entirely of 4 composers. Mozart, Puccini, Verdi and Wagner. And Tosca over La bohème? Aida over La traviata? Bleh. I think I prefer both the 2010 and 2015 lists to be honest. There's not even 5 in this new bunch that I'm that crazy about to want to vote for. Sorry, I'm out. But good luck!
    I would like to extend my personal thanks for your decision to bow out and vacate the premises forthwith as it will ensure that the thread will be that much less acrimonious and thus that much more enjoyable for those of us who feel that being open-minded and tolerant are actually virtues to be championed and not vices to be vilified.

    - Duncan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post
    In the rules of the thread, operettas are not excluded.
    Right, and so I nominated Lehar's Das Land des Lachelns.
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    Someone in the Poll thread proposed splitting the voting in various threads to make searching easier. I have no experience with that issue, but if members could consider it an improvement, I would give in.

    We could split the Poll in 5 different threads: 1-20, 21-40, 41-60, 61-80, and 81-100 and HM. Thus we continue with the current thread for the next week and we could have time to let one of the mods change the thread title to accomodate to the different stages.

    Current title: The 2020 TC Top 100+ Most Recommended Operas List
    New title: Top 1-20: 2020 TC MR Operas List

    Is it reasonable?
    How

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post
    Someone in the Poll thread proposed splitting the voting in various threads to make searching easier. I have no experience with that issue, but if members could consider it an improvement, I would give in.

    We could split the Poll in 5 different threads: 1-20, 21-40, 41-60, 61-80, and 81-100 and HM. Thus we continue with the current thread for the next week and we could have time to let one of the mods change the thread title to accomodate to the different stages.

    Current title: The 2020 TC Top 100+ Most Recommended Operas List
    New title: Top 1-20: 2020 TC MR Operas List

    Is it reasonable?
    How

    The 2020 TC Top 100+ Most Recommended Operas List - Numbers 1 - 20...


    The 2020 TC Top 100+ Most Recommended Operas List - Numbers 21 - 40...

    Etc.


    When I saw this -

    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post

    New title: Top 1-20: 2020 TC MR Operas List
    My first thought was - "Who's Mister Opera?" -
    Last edited by Duncan; Dec-02-2019 at 02:22.

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    In the list of threads, it's faster to see the beginning than the end of a long thread title. Imagine you have several and can't see which one to click because the interface doesn't show the whole title if it's that long.

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    Is it too late to list my top 20 operas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post
    In the list of threads, it's faster to see the beginning than the end of a long thread title. Imagine you have several and can't see which one to click because the interface doesn't show the whole title if it's that long.
    The thread title will show this in its entirety -

    2020 TC Top 100+ Most Recommended Operas List - Numbers 1-20

    or

    2020 TC Top 100+ Most Recommended Operas List - Nos 1-20



    or if you want the specific numbers listed first -

    Nos 1-20 - 2020 TC Top 100+ Most Recommended Operas List

    Nos 21-40 - 2020 TC Top 100+ Most Recommended Operas List

    etc.

    Your original suggestion still scans as if you've written "Mr. Opera's List"

    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post

    New title: Top 1-20: 2020 TC MR Operas List
    Last edited by Duncan; Dec-01-2019 at 23:20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josquin13 View Post
    Is it too late to list my top 20 operas?
    Please, go to the Poll thread. Yes. It's late for Positions 1-10. But you can join in for 11 onwards!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mollie John View Post
    or if you want the specific numbers listed first -

    Nos 1-20 - 2020 TC Top 100+ Most Recommended Operas List

    Nos 21-40 - 2020 TC Top 100+ Most Recommended Operas List

    etc.
    Yes, this one.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Quote Originally Posted by Mollie John View Post
    The thread title will show this in its entirety
    My desktop interface cuts the titles. If I had to put "Most Recommended", "Operas" may be cut from sight. It's just an insanely long title to not make abbreviations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post
    Please, go to the Poll thread. Yes. It's late for Positions 1-10. But you can join in for 11 onwards!



    Yes, this one.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA



    My desktop interface cuts the titles. If I had to put "Most Recommended", "Operas" may be cut from sight. It's just an insanely long title to not make abbreviations.
    Consider dropping the word "Most" and see if it fits - it's extraneous when used with "Recommended"

    Nos 1-20 - 2020 TC Top 100+ Recommended Operas List

    Nos 21-40 - 2020 TC Top 100+ Recommended Operas List

    If that still doesn't work consider dropping the "TC" -

    Nos 1-20 - 2020 Top 100+ Recommended Operas List

    Nos 21-40 - 2020 Top 100+ Recommended Operas List
    Last edited by Duncan; Dec-01-2019 at 23:30.

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