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    Now, Palimpsest (1979). This one has to do with scales that Xenakis devised. Excellent recording and performance, good liner notes.

    Xenakis Piano Aki Takahashi 200 dpi .jpg
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    Recorded in 1965. Excellent piano player, and excellent brass. I wonder, any relation to the other Takahashi?

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    I am pleased to report that I have finally started exploring the work of Xenakis (or should I say Ξενάκης, looks way cooler...) and it has been a great success so far! I have mainly concentrated on a select few orchestral works, but a few chamber and solo pieces have been caught in my radar as well. The most recent encounter was the orchestral work Jonchaies which moved me very deeply. Xenakis' way of unleashing a lot of sound from the orchestra makes me feel euphoric, there's just so much power and energy in his works and it doesn't feel superficial at all.

    I wonder how I should start approaching his music in a more organized way... I tend to do big "composer projects" during which I listen to everything that one single composer wrote, but I'm currently very busy with Bartók using that method and don't really have time for another one. Sometimes I hate my brain, why does all listening have to be so systematic!

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    Sometimes it's good to go all out with one composer until interest wanes. I did that with Bach last month.

    I'm not sure if there's an optimal way to listen to Xenakis? I was lucky to buy the orchestral set on the Timpani label when it was available.
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    I almost wish I could listen like that, so my listening could have more focus (and, some might argue, more depth). But whenever I do, I burn myself out really quick on that composer's music. Frequently, the only thing I ever want to listen to is Mahler, but if I listen to too much of his music in one day, or one week, the "magic" starts to wear off. There are other composers that this applies to for me as well, but Mahler comes to mind because I am taking a self-imposed break due to recent over-listening.

    As for Xenakis, I feel like his music is something one must really immerse oneself into. I think his musical language is among the most ruggedly individualistic in all music. You can't just pick it up here and there and run with it.... can you? I don't know, I've never given his music a fair shot. I've heard bits and pieces and have never been impressed. I'm sure it's just a matter of it all "clicking", but meanwhile I have other "difficult" composers I'm working on getting into... one day...
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    There's so much in Xenakis' music that is, while not fully 'indeterminate,' looser and more open to performance variations than orthodox classical, and that makes each new interpretation an adventure. The same thing with Ligeti and Cage.

    Conversely, that's what makes works on tape by Stockhausen, Maderna, Xenakis, and others appealing: they are fixed, unchanging statements, and this gives them a certain orthodox charm.

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    My wife put on disc one from the Timpani orchestral box this morning at 8:30 and I really enjoyed it. It's bold and adventurous music. I was surprised how much I enjoyed it at that hour of the morning. But I find it easy to enjoy the music of an artist with the convictions and determination of a man like Xenakis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    My wife put on disc one from the Timpani orchestral box this morning at 8:30 and I really enjoyed it. It's bold and adventurous music. I was surprised how much I enjoyed it at that hour of the morning. But I find it easy to enjoy the music of an artist with the convictions and determination of a man like Xenakis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by millionrainbows View Post
    That's my idea of domestic bliss.
    Agreed. You landed a good one, Star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    Agreed. You landed a good one, Star.
    She's the true avant garde warrior in our house and in life. I just sit around reading and listening to music.
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