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    If you got a new pair of headphones what recording would you play (or have you played) to test them out?

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    In the old days of Hi-Fi I would use Pipe Organ and Copland (Fanfare for the Common Man) to test speakers.

    I will be interested to read the replies. I often have trouble with earbuds producing what I like in terms of bass (Timpani).

    Of course I am not expert in this area, I have three sets of Bose headphones (Two in ear and one on ear set).

    I just wish more places carried Hi-End cans with the ability to try them out first
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    I too have used recordings of the Pipe Organ because of its wide frequency ranges. With a 32' pipe rumbling around at ~16 Hz, only the best quality cans will be able to reproduce the fundamental tone adequately. The Copland piece mentioned above would surely be a great alternate.

    For home and off-site recording/reviewing, I have been using Koss Pro4 series ear sets for the past 40 years.

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    Any suggested organ works that particularly employ the full capacity of the instrument?

    I never thought of this organ - I was thinking Mahler.

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    Just about any Bach fugue will do. I also enjoy Alison Balsom on trumpet with organ. Any album dedicated to organ would be especially good. As mentioned above, a good way to test or break a system.

    Another is the 1812 overture with cannons.

    At the time I was testing B&W speakers against Klipsch. I could not decided and bought both.

    I use Bose speakers most of the time with the Bose Subwoofer. Some may question the subwoofer with clasical, but it really helps with some of these pieces.
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    JS Bach, BWV 565 - Toccata & Fugue in D Minor
    Here's a splendid recording (free download, btw) done by our own Frederik Magle (site owner/administrator) on the Riga Cathedral organ.

    Another recording that will make or break those cans is the Concerto in G Minor for Organ, String Orchestra and Timpani of Francis Poulenc. It's on the EMI label and features Maurice Durufle at the organ of Saint-Etienne-du-Mont (France) with Georges Pretre conducting (EMI label).

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    Thanks for all the info and the link too - sounds great!

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    CDs do not reproduce notes below 20Hz or above 20kHz, but that covers what we can hear. A big pipe organ can make notes that we can physically feel, & there's no way for 'phones to move the air like that.
    I think the piano tests the 'phones, also the bass drum in a rock kit, and any instrument that you're really familiar with. I'd recommend using a recording that you own, and know well, and asking whether you enjoy it. Just don't be fooled by cans that sound louder & more up-front than the others, it's a short-term pleasure. Read all the reviews you can find. Then get the ones you really want.
    Or, here's an easier way to choose.
    1. Decide on a budget.
    2. Buy the Grados at or just above that figure.
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    I used to have a great pair of isolation headphones because I was taking care of an elderly parent who had to turn the TV up a bit. I tested them using sine wave tones I generated on the computer. I couldn't hear 20Hz but I could feel it vibrating around my ears. Just becasue the speaker isn't very big doesn't mean it can't vibrate at 20Hz.

    I believe I actually felt 16Hz as well, but that may have been my imagination. That's the frequency that's supposed to do horrible things to you physiologically.

    I did not try this in reverse and do 20,000Hz. That could have been damaging. Besides I didn't really want to know how much hearing loss I may have had from working at the airport years ago - not to mention the scores of rock concerts I've been to.

    The opening of Also Sprach Zarathustra is always a good workout for a headphone or speaker system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Harwood View Post
    Or, here's an easier way to choose.
    1. Decide on a budget.
    2. Buy the Grados at or just above that figure.
    Hilarious advice I can agree with.
    Corollary to No. 2: If this happens to be the SR325, get the Alessandro MS-2i instead. (Their site isn't much to look at, but they're a real outfit.)

    When testing out new gear, I have a large range of music that I throw at it. I test in categories, usually with 1-2 selections from each category. My categories are like "small combo jazz" or "large symphonic works," etc.

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