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    Quote Originally Posted by Josquin13 View Post
    B) Die Schöne Müllerin:

    Not surprisingly, my choices are all tenors:

    1. On a modern piano:

    --Gérard Souzay, Dalton Baldwin, Philips Festivo: Not everyone's going to agree with my 1st choice of a French tenor, Gerard Souzay, over the German tenor, Fritz Wunderlich on his legendary DG recording, but I slightly prefer Souzay due to Dalton Baldwin's more imaginative piano accompaniment, in comparison to Hubert Giesen's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OsshWyJgZo. But I must admit that Souzay's recording is the first I heard and imprinted on during the LP era. Nevertheless, I still like the interpretations better.
    Souzay is a light baritone, so you're more unpredictable than you think! His most notable roles for the stage were Golaud, Don Giovanni, Count Almaviva, etc, although he did start his studies as a tenor before switching to baritone.

    I've not heard his Mullerin, but he has a wonderful Schumann lieder disc also with Dalton Baldwin including one of my favorite performances of Dichterliebe.

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    Well personally I love the sound of bleating goats - mais à chacun ses goûts.

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    To veer off topic for a moment, I just ordered the other day Benjamin Britten's Serenade, the Decca disc w/ the composer conducting and Pears singing, on the (likely correct) presumption that it was a definitive performance. But I'm having second thoughts now. Ah well, Britten ain't Schumann, and perhaps Pears' "bleating goat" voice (Mandryka's words, not mine, Pears fans!) makes more sense in this repertoire than it does in German Lieder.

    I listened to maybe 5 songs off the Schreier/Richter Winterreise. I think this may be the one for me. I am going to try and find a copy, along with (probably) the DFD/Demus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    To veer off topic for a moment, I just ordered the other day Benjamin Britten's Serenade, the Decca disc w/ the composer conducting and Pears singing, on the (likely correct) presumption that it was a definitive performance.
    You might want to try one of Pears' earlier recordings of the Serenade, when his voice was in somewhat better shape - still an idiosyncratic sound, but a more youthful sound:

    pears1.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiki View Post
    ^^

    I have one BBC Magazine CD of the Partridges performing Schumann's Op. 39 Liederkreis. I like their subtleness very much. No overwhelming heart-on-sleeve stuff from the likes of DFD (not that that's a bad thing though). Unfortunately they seem to have left us precious few records (?).
    If you want to hear Ian Partridge, there's no shortage of recordings, although most of them are of non-mainstream repertoire. He did record Winterreise with Richard Burnett (on fortepiano):

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    There's also a lovely CD of well-known Schubert songs with his sister:

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    To veer off topic for a moment, I just ordered the other day Benjamin Britten's Serenade, the Decca disc w/ the composer conducting and Pears singing, on the (likely correct) presumption that it was a definitive performance. But I'm having second thoughts now. Ah well, Britten ain't Schumann, and perhaps Pears' "bleating goat" voice (Mandryka's words, not mine, Pears fans!) makes more sense in this repertoire than it does in German Lieder.

    I listened to maybe 5 songs off the Schreier/Richter Winterreise. I think this may be the one for me. I am going to try and find a copy, along with (probably) the DFD/Demus.
    Pears is very good for the poetry, for his way to make the words sound meaningful.

    It’s nice to play Britten’s Illuminations with Pears in front of a French people, and watch their face when they hear his accent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wkasimer View Post
    You might want to try one of Pears' earlier recordings of the Serenade, when his voice was in somewhat better shape - still an idiosyncratic sound, but a more youthful sound:

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    Fabulous here and of course suited to Britten's music

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    Pears is very good for the poetry, for his way to make the words sound meaningful.
    And Britten's superb playing doesn't hurt, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    Here’s a good song from Winterreise

    I’ve always loved this particular recording. Plunket Greene has a very appealing way with this. I believe he was almost seventy when he recorded this. It sounds most apposite.
    Last edited by Barbebleu; Feb-10-2020 at 00:24.
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