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    Default Who do you prefer: Vivaldi or Stravinsky?

    Overall, which or these two composers has music that you like more?

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    I pick Stravinsky by a large margin - make that a huge margin.

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    If we're going strictly on preference versus which is the greater/more influential composer, I like Vivaldi, especially his sacred works. Stravinsky is a giant, and I have a lot of favorites from his output, but still, I don't connect with his music the same as I do with Vivaldi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manxfeeder View Post
    If we're going strictly on preference versus which is the greater/more influential composer, I like Vivaldi, especially his sacred works. Stravinsky is a giant, and I have a lot of favorites from his output, but still, I don't connect with his music the same as I do with Vivaldi.
    This is strictly about the members preferences, not about who is the "greatest".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allerius View Post
    This is strictly about the members preferences, not about who is the "greatest".
    Great. Of course, in choosing Vivaldi, I'm obviously going against Stravinsky's preference.

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    To me they are both one-hit wonders - but what wonders!

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    Stravinsky by far. One hit wonder?? More like a 50 hit wonder.

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    I'm reminded of this:

    Do you feel the quaility of TalkClassical is slipping?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tapkaara View Post
    But threads like Palestrina vs Rachmaninoff, for example, are reactionary threads that have no real value other than to be silly for silly's sake. It's poll threads like THAT one that give poll threads bad names.

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    Vivaldi: hands down.
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allerius View Post
    This is strictly about the members preferences, not about who is the "greatest".
    I'm just curious, why do you want to know the members' preferences so much? If you ask me, I can't care less because TC is always biased in every single way. Just look how they gave more votes to Schubert's string quintets than all quintets by other composers combined in the poll "What is the Greatest String Quintet". What you like is all that matters. A TC poll matters to me only as much as polls like "do you like ketchup better or mustard?" in a forum about food.

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    Why is a question asked comparing these two composers? I did a google and saw TC has run a thread on this very question. But I still do not get why the need to ask of just these two composers.

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    Stravinsky! Didn't have to think for a second.
    Quote Originally Posted by CypressWillow View Post
    There are those who don't like chocolate.

    There are those who don't see anything in the eyes of a dog.

    There are those who don't like the scent of a rose.

    There are those who don't enjoy waking up to the first snowfall of the year.

    And there are those who simply don't get Chopin.

    Pity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammeredklavier View Post
    I take it that for you what maintain TC's quality is entering threads at random and attacking composers that you don't like (either the ones who somehow compete with Mozart or those who didn't care for him), right?

    Quote Originally Posted by hammeredklavier View Post
    I'm just curious, why do you want to know the members' preferences so much? If you ask me, I can't care less because TC is always biased in every single way. Just look how they gave more votes to Schubert's string quintets than all quintets by other composers combined in the poll "What is the Greatest String Quintet". What you like is all that matters. A TC poll matters to me only as much as polls like "do you like ketchup better or mustard?" in a forum about food.
    Why not? The members here tend to be classical music enthusiasts and usually have a lot of musical knowledge, and I think that it's valid for one to want to know their opinions and preferences. And I don't think that the quintet poll is biased at all - I also prefer the Schubert quintet over any other I know, including the six Mozart's, and voted for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbang View Post
    Why is a question asked comparing these two composers? I did a google and saw TC has run a thread on this very question. But I still do not get why the need to ask of just these two composers.
    In my case, I wanted to know how the Red Priest would fare in a poll against the 20th century master who said that he wrote only one concerto many times (he's actually doing fine in my opinion). There's a poll about this already, but it's from two years ago and it has more options than I would want. Besides, again, why not?
    Last edited by Xisten267; Jan-26-2020 at 17:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allerius View Post
    I take it that for you what maintain TC's quality is entering threads at random and attacking composers that you don't like (either the ones who somehow compete with Mozart or those who didn't care for him), right?
    I didn't complain about TC's quality. I was just quoting that old thread to make a point that the comparison "Vivaldi vs Stravinsky" is similar to "Palestrina vs Rachmaninoff". I'm not sure what you mean by "attacking "either the composers who somehow compete with Mozart or those who didn't care for him."" Can you give me an example of a member doing it for no apparent reason? (without someone else initiating it?) Maybe you're the one who did, with Beethoven, against Bach. (btw, I don't think Bach pales to Beethoven in "rhythm" - because in fugues, Beethoven often gets overly homo-rhythmic, like in Op.133 and the first movement of Op.131. Also consider Bach's use of tempo and meter shifts in Mass in A major BWV234). And I still think it's ridiculously unfair Schubert is rated far, far, above Handel, Haydn, Hummel, and CPE Bach at TC. - Schubert pales to CPE Bach in orchestral works by a huge margin.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allerius View Post
    Why not? The members here tend to be classical music enthusiasts and usually have a lot of musical knowledge, and I think that it's valid for one to want to know their opinions and preferences. And I don't think that the quintet poll is biased at all - I also prefer the Schubert quintet over any other I know, including the six Mozart's, and voted for it.
    I would also have questioned the validity of that poll if Mozart's K515 or K516 gained more votes than all other composers' string quintets combined. Members like Partita (particularly in discussion of Schubert) have often pretended as if TC's decision was "objective". He liked to argue Schubert gets enough "points" in "TC's List of Recommended Works" to deserve a place with the Big Three or whatever. It's always troubling when members do that sort of thing, in my view.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allerius View Post
    In my case, I wanted to know how the Red Priest would fare in a poll against the 20th century master who said that he wrote only one concerto many times (he's actually doing fine in my opinion). There's a poll about this already, but it's from two years ago and it has more options than I would want. Besides, again, why not?
    You're free to do whatever you want, but I was just curious why you would make a poll just about anything. For me, what TC thinks and how composers "fare" in their biased polls won't affect my decision in any way. Maybe you're letting them affect your decision? (I'm not saying it's a bad thing.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammeredklavier View Post
    I didn't complain about TC's quality. I was just quoting that old thread to make a point that the comparison "Vivaldi vs Stravinsky" is similar to "Palestrina vs Rachmaninoff". I'm not sure what you mean by "attacking "either the composers who somehow compete with Mozart or those who didn't care for him."" Can you give me an example of a member doing it for no apparent reason? (without someone else initiating it?) Maybe you're the one who did, with Beethoven, against Bach. (btw, I don't think Bach pales to Beethoven in "rhythm" - because in fugues, Beethoven often gets overly homo-rhythmic, like in Op.133 and the first movement of Op.131). And I still think it's ridiculously unfair Schubert is rated far, far, above Handel, Haydn, Hummel, and CPE Bach at TC. - Schubert pales to CPE Bach in orchestral works by a huge margin.
    Here you are again with your off-topic trolling and repeated complaining about that string quintet poll that had dozens of members voting independently. Schubert won by a large margin - get over it.
    Last edited by Bulldog; Jan-26-2020 at 20:48.

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