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    Curious...

    Every dot in the schematics suggests the 'landing point' of the beat...

    except the last one (and this is true of all of the diagrams).

    Based on what I learned about 5/4 time (conducted as a 3-followed-by-2, or 2-followed-by-3, depending on the 'feel' [a famous example of the former- Mars from Holst's The Planets]), I would've thought that slow 6/8 could be taken as a pattern something like this: ll.

    Once I get more of a clue about the preceding info,
    I might eventually be able to discuss conducting cross-rhythms.

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    If you take wikipedia's 6/8 and you take away one of the dots (either on the left or the right side of the center, depending on wether the 5/4 is divided 2/3 or 3/2) seems the easiest to me.

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    'I might eventually be able to discuss conducting cross-rhythms'

    gasp...cross-rhythmers. anything like cross-dressers?

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    funny you should mention cross dressers... xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by david johnson View Post
    gasp...cross-rhythmers. anything like cross-dressers?
    What'cha trying to do? Kill your own thread??

    Anyway, let's go back to the issue of 6/8 time- The book "The Armchair Conductor" says that for 6/8 time, a person cound mark a half-pace 3/4 and (in their words) no-one would be the wiser. However...

    No small number of Sousa marches are in 6/8 time. In that instance, it would seem that a 3-beat would be- well... just silly. Seems it would work better as a two, one beat for the first 3-pulse and a second beat for the second 3-pulse. Thoughts??(!)

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    It's the only way. 6/8 is a measure with two times. beating 2x 3 beats in the way you'd beat a 3/4 put too much stress on the 2nd and 3d quavers of each time. It reduces the measure to a 3/8 times two, which is a wholly different measure then 6/8

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    slow 6/8 is conducted in 6, fast 6/8 is conducted in 2.

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    yes, but the division of the slow beat is still done in two: three beats oriented to the left, two to the right and the first as a downbeat: this still makes it a measure with two (slow, subdivided) times.

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