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    Wow! Dvorak and now Beethoven. Two of my favourite cycles for SQ. The Dvorak experience was great. In addition, I took the opportunity to indulge and familiarize myself with the 9th and 10th with repeated listening. Very enjoyable and thanks for the choice.

    I own 5 complete sets of Beethoven. In the past I have listened while reading along to The Beethoven Quartet Companion. Edited by Martin and Winter. Looking forward to more insightful comments again this week. Love this thread!

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    Listening to the Auryn Quartet. Oh, bliss, bliss and heaven. I lay all nagoy to the ceiling, my gulliver on my rookers on the pillow, glazzies closed, rot open in bliss, slooshying the sluice of lovely sounds. Oh, it was gorgeousness and gorgeosity made flesh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwv 1080 View Post
    Listening to the Auryn Quartet. Oh, bliss, bliss and heaven. I lay all nagoy to the ceiling, my gulliver on my rookers on the pillow, glazzies closed, rot open in bliss, slooshying the sluice of lovely sounds. Oh, it was gorgeousness and gorgeosity made flesh
    I want what he's having.

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    If I’m not mistaken, Bwv 1080 is referring to a passage from Anthony Burgess’s A Clockwork Orange
    "If we understood the world, we would realize that there is a logic of harmony underlying its manifold apparent dissonances." - Jean Sibelius

    "Art, like morality, consists of drawing the line somewhere." - G.K. Chesterton

    "Ceaseless work, analysis, reflection, writing much, endless self-correction, that is my secret." - Johann Sebastian Bach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegro Con Brio View Post
    If I’m not mistaken, Bwv 1080 is referring to a passage from Anthony Burgess’s A Clockwork Orange
    Damn, you're right! I should have caught that!

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    Last edited by StevehamNY; Apr-19-2021 at 01:36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevehamNY View Post
    I want what he's having.
    Just some Moloko plus with Drencrum

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    I just listened to the ABQ play this quartet, and the first movement goes so fast it would have blown my hat off I were wearing one. The esteemed Italianos, by contrast, play the same movement more than two minutes slower.

    Have also re-listened to my Takacs set, of course, as well as checking out the Auryn, Borodin, and Talich.

    And the Vegh (the stereo set reissued on Naive), which for all of its surface flaws is still going with me to the desert island, along with the Takacs if I'm allowed to take two.

    Looking forward to hearing the other reviews!

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    Just joining in here. Someone recommend I come check this out. I don't have a lot to add here - my wife bought me a box set of these a while ago by the Takacs quartet. I'm not that familiar with them - but she found it in a store, knew I was listening to more classical and that I liked Beethoven. Where do you start? Any one in particular? I just started playing at the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clloydster View Post
    Just joining in here. Someone recommend I come check this out. I don't have a lot to add here - my wife bought me a box set of these a while ago by the Takacs quartet. I'm not that familiar with them - but she found it in a store, knew I was listening to more classical and that I liked Beethoven. Where do you start? Any one in particular? I just started playing at the beginning.
    Hey Clloydster, probably the best place to start are either the early or the middle quartets. Razumovsky (op. 59)#1, this week's focus quartet, is probably a good one to start with. Lots of melodic invention, banging choons and general loveliness. You're on solid ground with the Takacs quartet recordings. They're a class act. I'd leave the later quartets till you're more familiar with the early ones and the middles, myself, but that's up to you. They're all great. Enjoy your listening. You have a wealth of stuff to go at. If you like Bethoven quartets try Schubert quartets too (especially the late ones) and the Dvorak string quartets (especially #9 onwards). So much wonderful music.

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    Will do. I really like Dvorak's 9th Symphony, so I'll have to listen to his string quartets as well. Don't know how productive a contributor I'll be here. Probably just follow along and try to learn something. My knowledge is pretty much on the level of "ooh, that sounds nice."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clloydster View Post
    Will do. I really like Dvorak's 9th Symphony, so I'll have to listen to his string quartets as well. Don't know how productive a contributor I'll be here. Probably just follow along and try to learn something. My knowledge is pretty much on the level of "ooh, that sounds nice."
    Don't worry about it. I started listening to Beethoven about 33 years ago after renting A Clockwork Orange, and I still "judge" music by the "ooh, that sounds nice" test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SearsPoncho View Post
    Don't worry about it. I started listening to Beethoven about 33 years ago after renting A Clockwork Orange, and still "judge" music by the "ooh, that sounds nice" test.
    Clloydster, just seconding what SP said. I've learned so much from following along here, and I've discovered so much amazing new music that I probably would have passed by just a few months ago.

    It's also maybe the most positive and supportive group I've ever seen on the Interwebs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Clloydster View Post
    Will do. I really like Dvorak's 9th Symphony, so I'll have to listen to his string quartets as well. Don't know how productive a contributor I'll be here. Probably just follow along and try to learn something. My knowledge is pretty much on the level of "ooh, that sounds nice."
    As others have said we're all basically the same there (ooh, that sounds nice) and if you like Dvorak's 9th symphony you will almost certainly like Dvorak's late quartets and especially the 'American' Quartet (his most famous quartet).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clloydster View Post
    Will do. I really like Dvorak's 9th Symphony, so I'll have to listen to his string quartets as well. Don't know how productive a contributor I'll be here. Probably just follow along and try to learn something. My knowledge is pretty much on the level of "ooh, that sounds nice."
    Then it won't just be me. I'm here to listen to music, offer some pedestrian comment and like posts
    My new years resolution is to buy less new music and listen more to the absolutely STUPID amount of music I already have.

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    Welcome, Clloydster. I am fairly new here myself and I am blown away by the dedication and erudition of some of the contributors. I love hearing all of the different perspectives and I'm sure yours will be as valid as any one else's.
    This is a difficult and complex piece to interpret (I will try to put together some of my thoughts about the piece itself a bit later) and, as a result there are many different ways to go with it.
    Here are some of my first impressions of recordings:
    Tokyo quartet (their more recent version):
    Beautiful sound and an elegant, thoughtful performance. There is a dignity and nobility to this version which is, at times, very fitting.
    The scherzo movement is wonderful sneaky and full of character instead of just weird.
    The slow movement again, has a quiet dignity.
    The finale is exciting but in a more playful way than some groups play it.
    Overall, good, clean fun.

    Vlach:
    Why is the first movement so slow? This is bordering on what you might call a good practice tempo. I don’t get it.
    Slow movement has lots of gooey sliding around as if it were a Bruch concerto.
    In the last movement the tempo migrates according to the mood of the performers. I’m not a big fan of this approach, but I will have to admit it kind of works. It makes for an exciting finale.
    Overall, this seems like an old school approach and mostly is not my cup of tea.

    Rosalyra:
    Excellent vigorous 1st movement, strong statements. Lots of stopping before subito pianos. This is an interesting interpretative point. Does one allow for time or not? In this case, it is pretty much inserting a quarter note rest every time. I understand why, but I also can see why it a distortion of the original text. Any one else have ideas on this?
    Scherzo was nicely mysterious.
    Overall, a very straightforward reading, but not a lot of personality. It is interesting because I listened to this after the Vlach and it was a huge contrast. One is cigars and instincts; the other is metronomes and dissertations. At least, that is my impression after one listen.

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