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    ST, so sorry to hear about this, but thank God you and your wife are safe! New York State has an Office for Victim Services (I'm sure there's an office in your area) that can definitely help with the recovery work. I've seen their work (secondhand, at least) and know they have some really good people there.

    Beyond that, just know that we're all thinking of you today, and wishing you the absolute best.

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    Not a lot can be said ST other than my thoughts are with you and your wife - stay positive.

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    So sorry ST. Glad you and your wife are otherwise unharmed. Stiff upper lip, and have the odd beer here and there ...........

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    Thanks, guys! It's a matter of juvenile delinquents with parents in absentia. Maybe I need an alarm system that blasts atonal quartets at 120 decibels when someone trespasses here?
    "In the beginning there was noise. And the noise begat rhythm. And the rhythm begat everything else." - Mickey Hart

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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
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    Maybe I need an alarm system that blasts atonal quartets at 120 decibels when someone trespasses here?
    Try Shura Gehrman's, Schubert Lieder. That cleared a house party many years back. I reckon it would still definitely do the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merl View Post
    Try Shura Gehrman's, Schubert Lieder. That cleared a house party many years back. I reckon it would still definitely do the job.
    Brotzmann. Machine Gun. (Full volume.)


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    That Wollschleger piece is a very interesting exercise in listening to sparse fragments of sound and space beautifully placed. When it was over I sat silently for a minute listening to the quiet as if it was still part of the composition. And maybe that's the desired effect? Be still and listen.
    "In the beginning there was noise. And the noise begat rhythm. And the rhythm begat everything else." - Mickey Hart

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    All I can do is echo everyone's condolences. That is horrible.

    Quote Originally Posted by StevehamNY View Post
    Brotzmann. Machine Gun. (Full volume.)

    This would certainly drive people away - not me, though! Early Brötzmann is something else.

    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    That Wollschleger piece is a very interesting exercise in listening to sparse fragments of sound and space beautifully placed. When it was over I sat silently for a minute listening to the quiet as if it was still part of the composition. And maybe that's the desired effect? Be still and listen.
    I think you're on to something. Keeping the composer's words in mind, it's hard not to see that as a desired effect.
    Last edited by Portamento; Jul-26-2021 at 03:00.

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    Sorry to hear of your hassle and wrecked car, ST, and especially the creepiness of having people invade your home.

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    Listening again, this morning (this time without animal/human distractions) again I was disappointed with the scarcity of material in the first 11-12 minutes. I know that's the point but the huge (near) silences frustrate me. After then I am fine with how the rhythm comes in and then disintegrates slowly. I'm going to listen again this week. I've said before that it's this sparseness of material with some modern pieces that really alienates them for me. I need more to hang my hat on...a pulse, a rhythm, a repeated motif or god forbid a tune. I don't need much. I'm an admirer of plenty of obscure or avant-garde music but the stuff I like has much more going on.
    Last edited by Merl; Jul-26-2021 at 13:09.

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    ^ And last week some were complaining that there was too much going on in the Ferneyhough, too many notes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthusiast View Post
    ^ And last week some were complaining that there was too much going on in the Ferneyhough, too many notes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthusiast View Post
    ^ And last week some were complaining that there was too much going on in the Ferneyhough, too many notes.
    Hey! That was me. But it wasn't a complaint, just an opinion that was actually directed towards another one of his pieces, not the 6th quartet. Portamento has given us the antidote in Wollschlager. At least for some of us. Sorry, Merl! Okay, back to my phone calls...
    "In the beginning there was noise. And the noise begat rhythm. And the rhythm begat everything else." - Mickey Hart

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    I'm not particularly fond of minimalism, but I kind of liked the first movement. What really drew me in were the overtones generated by the constant glissandi and oscillations, and the occasional restricted but effective gestures of some string playing a little melody over the wall were also a nice addition, giving the piece more things to latch on to, and filling up the white space. There's also a certain climax which gives the piece a sort of direction, instead of just wandering around. An interesting movement.

    The 2nd movement begins with a compelling rhythmic figure, and I like the almost drum like quality of the cello in that first minute. And if my ears don't fail me, there's a nice underlying motif, played in different ways, which adds to the constant exploration of different timbres and textures.

    All in all, I enjoyed this quartet very much. Thank you, Portamento for a left field selection and for introducing me to a new composer.

    ST sorry to hear about your home invasion and your car, I hope you can get some sense of safety and security back.

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    Cool piece, hear influences of both Feldman and spectralism (looks like his comp teacher, Nils Vigeland, was a student of Feldman)

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