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    The Honnegger is a wonderful work that got me from the start and kept on getting me. It seems strangely negelected given that there are so few recordings (I only listened to the Ludwig). A great discovery - thanks to Starthrower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SearsPoncho View Post
    Is Anna still in Cambridge, Mass., or did she move to another continent?
    I'll leave it to her to tell you but she's got back to me, now. She's putting her choice up soon so you're safe for now, SP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SearsPoncho View Post
    Is Anna still in Cambridge, Mass., or did she move to another continent?
    So, I'm a Finnish/Estonian and I've lived my whole life in Europe. I moved to Cambridge, Mass. just a month ago for college .

    I've been extremely busy recently, which is why I have really struggled with staying active on TC. I'll try to fix that this week. I still listen to classical music, of course, but just haven't had time to write about it. As for the next week's string quartet, I had three choices and ended up picking Verdi's String Quartet in E Minor. Interestingly, it almost reminds me of the compositional language of the Romantic Slavic composers but it's also fascinating to me that Verdi was able to write such an enjoyable quartet out of nowhere during Aida rehearsals. Verdi was of course an absolutely amazing melodist, which I think is one of the important qualities that made him such a great opera composer. However, as I think many of his most mature operas (e.g. Otello) and this string quartet show, he didn't just compose nice tunes but was also able to develop more complex musical structures.

    There are quite a few recordings of it too (which I'm sure others might know better than I do myself). Anyway, I hope you all enjoy it!



    BTW, I *loved* Honegger’s quartet! A very nice new discovery for me!
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    Nice pick, Annaw. Here's the recordings I listed on my writing pad a few months ago (ironically I was gonna pick it but went with Janacek 2 instead). Its a well recorded quartet (30+ recordings) and lots of the big hitters have performed it. It's a quartet I know well, have a few recordings of and enjoy but I've not heard that many other recordings, other than those I have, so I'm eager to listen to some alternatives and find a better recording (if there is one).

    Melos
    Nuovo
    Schumann
    Vertavo
    Salvatore Accardo
    Amadeus
    Juilliard
    Verdi
    Enso
    Alberni
    Quartetto Nous
    David
    Tetzlaff
    Hermes
    Venezia
    Britten
    Hagen
    Kapralova
    Di Roma
    Michailow
    Amar-Hindemith
    Guarneri
    American String Project
    Ensemble Ottoni
    Romantici
    Italiano
    Leipziger
    Brodsky
    Di Cremona
    Delme
    Vogler
    Artemis
    Vermeer
    Amati
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    Lovely choice! I've never heard this one as I've been too focused in the last few months on digesting Verdi's most renowned operas. I'm eager to see how his melodic genius and stellar dramatic imagination translates to a totally different genre.
    "If we understood the world, we would realize that there is a logic of harmony underlying its manifold apparent dissonances." - Jean Sibelius

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    "Ceaseless work, analysis, reflection, writing much, endless self-correction, that is my secret." - Johann Sebastian Bach

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    I've been meaning to get to know the Verdi Quartet better, myself. Great choice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorf View Post
    I've been meaning to get to know the Verdi Quartet better, myself. Great choice!
    Snap! (do you say snap in the US?).

    I have had the Hagen Quartet on DG in my collection for a few years and although I might look at it on the shelf, I've never gone on to actually play it!!

    As is my wont, I shall stick to the CD that I have in my collection ........


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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryPenfold View Post
    Snap! (do you say snap in the US?).

    I have had the Hagen Quartet on DG in my collection for a few years and although I might look at it on the shelf, I've never gone on to actually play it!!

    As is my wont, I shall stick to the CD that I have in my collection ........


    Thank your lucky stars you have that one and not the Verdi Quartet's performance I just listened to, Henry. The Verdis get it all wrong with an anemic tone and their tendency to chop at the notes and never let the music sing. Such a rough tone won't work in this one. Ghastly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merl View Post
    Thank your lucky stars you have that one and not the Verdi Quartet's performance I just listened to, Henry. The Verdis get it all wrong with an anemic tone and their tendency to chop at the notes and never let the music sing. Such a rough tone won't work in this one. Ghastly.


    Phew!

    I've played the Hagen through. I thought it was a very good performance. And the music sounds rather modern compared to what I expected (and I emphasise I) from Verdi in this genre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreisler jr View Post
    discographically
    Adverb of the Week Award goes to Kreisler jr.

    And thank you, ST, for highlighting a great quartet this week. Agree 100% that both the #2 and #3 are worth finding.

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    Some thoughts on this fine quartet by the famous man of opera.
    https://fugueforthought.de/2017/07/0...et-in-e-minor/
    "In the beginning there was noise. And the noise begat rhythm. And the rhythm begat everything else." - Mickey Hart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merl View Post
    Thank your lucky stars you have that one and not the Verdi Quartet's performance I just listened to, Henry. The Verdis get it all wrong with an anemic tone and their tendency to chop at the notes and never let the music sing. Such a rough tone won't work in this one. Ghastly.
    Assuming that this is true (and when have Merl's ears ever failed me?), what should the penalty be for a quartet who plays their own namesake's work so badly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevehamNY View Post
    Adverb of the Week Award goes to Kreisler jr.
    It is not my native language. Is "discographically" such an unusual word or was it wrong?

    As for the Verdi, I have three recordings (Hagen, Artemis, Vogler). Last year I listened to all of them, I could not decide to cull any, so I will listen to them again. I am not too fond of the piece, it seems more like a curiosity (but considering the dearth of recordings of some other pieces I mentioned above, I consider the dozens of recordings of that quartet a relative waste...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevehamNY View Post
    Assuming that this is true (and when have Merl's ears ever failed me?), what should the penalty be for a quartet who plays their own namesake's work so badly?
    And who has the bizarre idea to name a quartet ensemble for an opera composer...?

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    Mmm - another I don't have in my collection but that is largely down to the fact that when I did listen to it a few years ago I wasn't enthused enough to part with any hard earned for it.

    Now, I am hopefully wise enough to understand that my reaction at this point in time may well be different but with so many to try I'm going to do something unusual for me - I'm going to wait and see what a number of the other participants suggest as decent recordings before jumping in. Merl's reaction to the Verdi Quartet recording makes me wonder if previously I had struck pyrite not gold.

    I wait with interest.

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