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    The Hagen Q. is very good but the fillers are really slight curiosities, so if you want to get a disc, I'd rather suggest one with a more substantial discmate, so should the Verdi Q never capture your heart you still have it for completeness and also another piece on the disc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreisler jr View Post
    It is not my native language. Is "discographically" such an unusual word or was it wrong?
    No, it's used perfectly! It's just an impressive word, and doubly so if this is your second language. (I feel so American with my smattering of college French and nothing else, while so many Europeans can get by passably in their fourth or fifth language.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryPenfold View Post
    Snap! (do you say snap in the US?).
    Henry, we absolutely have "snap!" in the US. Although it's most effective when you add the right body language:


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    I had a listen to the Amadeus recording this morning and whilst it's elegantly played its all a bit stuffed-shirt for me and the prestissimo was not really very joyous sounding at all, particularly when played back to back with the far more dramatic Artemis and Melos performances that will certainly make the final round-up (but who knows where?). I wasn't impressed by the Juilliard's recording either but not because of the performance but the rather odd sound balances (one minute close and the next recessed). Thankfully I finished off with the Schumann Quartet who made a much better fist of proceedings. I'm going to try and race through these in the next few days as I have a horrendous week at work.

    Edit: since I came home I've listened to 3 recordings I have in my collection - the Alberni, Delme and Italianos. All are easily recommendable but some may struggle with the slightly ascerbic string sound of the Quartetto Italian's 1950 mono recording, which sounds a bit scrawny compared to others. It is beautifully played, though.
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    I listened to Juilliard in my Sony Chamber Music Box and found them brilliant. I think this work, which Verdi clearly intended to demonstrate that he was a master of the contrapuntal form, not just a composer of melodies, benefits from a slightly more sober approach. I did not find the sonic imbalances Merl mentioned on my recording. BTW, the Juilliards do let their hair down when Belcanto cantilenes are on display, especially the gorgeous Vc solo in the third movement. I think this quartet is a work of genius. However, I does not surprise me it never became popular. I guess the overlap between Verdi Opera lovers and string quartet lovers is limited. The former will miss hummable tunes in the quartet, the latter would probably not expect Verdi to be capable of this and will mostly not bother to listen to it. What actually impressed me most was the modernity of the two outer movements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastkeinBrahms View Post
    I listened to Juilliard in my Sony Chamber Music Box and found them brilliant. I think this work, which Verdi clearly intended to demonstrate that he was a master of the contrapuntal form, not just a composer of melodies, benefits from a slightly more sober approach. I did not find the sonic imbalances Merl mentioned on my recording. BTW, the Juilliards do let their hair down when Belcanto cantilenes are on display, especially the gorgeous Vc solo in the third movement. I think this quartet is a work of genius. However, I does not surprise me it never became popular. I guess the overlap between Verdi Opera lovers and string quartet lovers is limited. The former will miss hummable tunes in the quartet, the latter would probably not expect Verdi to be capable of this and will mostly not bother to listen to it. What actually impressed me most was the modernity of the two outer movements.
    I'll try and get another source for a listen, FKB. It did strike me as strange that the sound deviated so wildly.

    Edit: I tried another source, FKB, and although the weird balances weren't there the close, very dry recorded sound (via Spotify) is definitely not pleasant which is odd for 90s Juilliard recordings that tend to be more reverberant. I don't know if it's been remastered for the Sony Chamber Box but if not it needs to be. Funnily enough I checked online and its mentioned in a very negative review from the BBC magazine.....

    Unfortunately, these new recordings are far from ideal. Both suffer from an unpleasantly close balance....
    https://www.classical-music.com/revi...erdi-sibelius/
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    I had no idea Verdi had written a SQ. Very interesting choice!

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