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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegro Con Brio View Post
    Someone wrote a 96-page thesis on this quartet! If you’re into the technical side of things or just for some info about the composer’s background, objectives, and influences it’s great for at least a skim: https://open.bu.edu/ds2/stream/?#/do...367199/page/41
    Just a quick thought after glancing through a part of this paper and SearsPoncho's observation of a journey: The author remarks on how little connected the third third tranquillo seems to be to the preceding sections. Could it be that the last section symbolizes P's return to earlier forms of music whereas the first ones stand for earlier stages? In any case, there is a progression there, despite the episodic character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SearsPoncho View Post
    (Oh, Steve! I must look up the composer you said would melt my face. Any suggestions for what piece I should hear?)
    It's Penderecki's week, but I don't think he'd mind* me responding to SP with a mention of Zbigniew Bargielski, a true compatriot (born just four years later). The works of both composers have been a yearly staple at the Warsaw Autumn festival, although obviously Penderecki is much more well known internationally.

    I love all of Bargielski's string quartets, none more than his first. Also a piece called "A Night of Farewells," which is scored for string quartet and... (wait for it...) an accordion. Sounds dreadful on paper, right? But WOW.

    *I say this with all respect, as I know Mr. Penderecki just passed away last year.

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    My quick take: I love this piece and see myself listening to it a lot in the future. I connected with it emotionally right away. It isn’t one of those pieces that make you scratch your head and wonder what the composer is getting at: hmm is he saying that the music can only exist if we separate the meaning and taxonomy of the sound from the sound itself? It’s music that goes right into your bloodstream and makes you feel things.
    The suggestion from FKB that we should avoid pigeonholing is very good. Inevitable comparisons are always made, but I”m trying to start out hearing this as just…music. My next post will probably be, you know what this reminds me of?….
    Somewhere in my closet is a signed recording of recording of the composer’s 1st violin concerto with Isaac Stern. I remember hearing him play that piece in Minneapolis in the 70s. I was pretty young at that time, but I remember feeling the importance of the event. I remember it as the world premiere but maybe it was only the US premiere. I seem to remember a controversy about this new style: how dare you write music we can understand!

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    Finally, the Hyperion disc with the Royal String Quartet, which had got stuck in the mail, arrived and I just listened to it. They are an all-Polish group, so why they called themselves that escapes me. Never mind: This is the most intense, at times ferocious reading, totally captivating. It sounds incredibly idiomatic, very enjoyable.
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    I've listened to all recordings at least twice (some more)
    My thoughts on these are in the link below.

    Penderecki String Quartet 3 review

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merl View Post
    I've listened to all recordings at least twice (some more)
    My thoughts on these are in the link below.

    Penderecki String Quartet 3 review
    Yay! Pleased I chose the Tippetts.

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    I can only offer brief thoughts this week due to very limited listening time and it doesn't look like I'll be able to do the recording-comparison thing for this exercise going forward, but I just wanted to say that I really, really enjoyed this quartet. As always, writing about music is such a difficult thing because it is never a substitute for what one actually experiences (although Burbage, Merl, Josquin13, Carmina Banana, and the other contributors to this thread never fail to amaze me at their skill in communicating such thoughts) but the by turns lyrical, aggressive, tragic, and hopeful mood of the piece captures my heart. Penderecki's stylistic evolution is up there with Stravinsky in terms of sheer diversity throughout his life, and as I hoped this has opened the door for me to appreciate his music. Much of it reminded me of Shosty's 12-14th quartets, three of my all time favorite works in the genre which are full of overwhelming darkness, sardonic wit, and brilliant explorations of sound combinations. The persistent ostinato is consistently reworked into different sonorities so that it never becomes tiring. Wonderful stuff and IMO a real gem of music from the 2000s so far.

    Oh, and if you're looking for something to play in front of your house to set the mood for trick-or-treaters this Halloween, put on Penderecki's 2nd quartet from 40 years earlier. Just trust me on this one.
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    Another super choice - the standard of selections never seems to falter.

    I am coming late to the party on this one - nothing I can say will add much to the already insightful comments posted perviously. I have the Royal Quartet on disc and have streamed a couple of the others - I always thought this quartet to be a great surprise after the short, oh so easy to digest tunefullness of the first two quartets ( ).
    To paraphrase Merl 'the ostinato gives me a hook to hang my hat on' - indeed it does, it gives the work a centre of balance. The music at times wanders off but returns to the balancing point. Relativey easy listening as much of later Penderecki can be, he may have upset some of his early devotees but I can see the worth in both the earlier and later works.

    So in summation a modern work that can be played without fear of frightening the horses - lovely.
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