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    Hi i am new to Schubert's song cycles. I am currently listening to Die Schone Mullerin the Fritz Wunderlich
    Recordings. Would appreciate suggestions for recordings of other Schubert song cycles/lieder.

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    That's a great one.

    One that I got recently, and like, is Peter Schreier singing the Schwanengesang w/ András Schiff.

    Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau recorded all of them multiple times, if you like his voice it might be worth checking that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    That's a great one.

    One that I got recently, and like, is Peter Schreier singing the Schwanengesang w/ András Schiff.

    Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau recorded all of them multiple times, if you like his voice it might be worth checking that out.
    Agreed, I second Fischer-Dieskau. Hans Hotter also recorded Schubert's lieder, certainly Die Winterreise, Schwanengesang and multiple independent smaller lieder works. Hotter's and F-D's voices are very different though - as a bass-baritone Hotter had a heavier and somewhat darker voice so it probably comes down to preference . Fleming has also recorded Schubert's lieder - I think I remember that someone in this forum recommended her recording with Eschenbach but I haven't listened to it myself so I cannot give my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by annaw View Post
    Agreed, I second Fischer-Dieskau. Hans Hotter also recorded Schubert's lieder, certainly Die Winterreise, Schwanengesang and multiple independent smaller lieder works. Hotter's and F-D's voices are very different though - as a bass-baritone Hotter had a heavier and somewhat darker voice so it probably comes down to preference . Fleming has also recorded Schubert's lieder - I think I remember that someone in this forum recommended her recording with Eschenbach but I haven't listened to it myself so I cannot give my opinion.
    Oh yes, I've heard some of the Fleming/Eschenbach Schubert Lieder. Definitely a worthy recommendation, again with the caveat, if you like her voice.

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    Thank you both for your suggestions. Will look forward to seeking them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annaw View Post
    Agreed, I second Fischer-Dieskau. Hans Hotter also recorded Schubert's lieder, certainly Die Winterreise, Schwanengesang and multiple independent smaller lieder works. Hotter's and F-D's voices are very different though - as a bass-baritone Hotter had a heavier and somewhat darker voice so it probably comes down to preference . Fleming has also recorded Schubert's lieder - I think I remember that someone in this forum recommended her recording with Eschenbach but I haven't listened to it myself so I cannot give my opinion.
    If you like baritone voice, let me recommend beside Fischer-Dieskau the younger singer who sounds like him but, IMO, even better: Olaf Bär. He Has a good recording on EMI with accompanist Geoffrey Parsons performing Goethe-Lieder and Lieder nach verschiedenen Dichtern. He has also recorded die schöne Müllerin with Parsons.

    Try this:

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    Schreier has recorded all three song cycles with Schiff and they are good recommendations. However, the really inspired Wintereisse is the live version with Richter, coughs and all. Mesmeric.
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    For a completely unaffected, young-man-in-love approach to Schöne Müllerin, try Aksel Schiøtz with Gerald Moore. It is utterly believable, quite far removed from traditional approach to art song. If you want to look straight into the abyss with Winterreise, try Hans Hotter with Michael Raucheisen. It’s devastating and, again, quite far removed from anything recorded since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dulova Harps On View Post
    Hi i am new to Schubert's song cycles. I am currently listening to Die Schone Mullerin the Fritz Wunderlich
    Recordings. Would appreciate suggestions for recordings of other Schubert song cycles/lieder.
    If you particularly like Wunderlich, you may be happier with conventionally beautiful voices, rather than people like Schreier, Bostridge, Fischer-Dieskau, or even Hotter, who are not to everyone's taste. You also may prefer modern sonics.

    For Winterreise, I'd suggest Peter Mattei's new recording, or older ones by Hakan Hagegard and Werner Güra.

    For Schwanengesang, Bryn Terfel or Güra.

    Most of these should be available on Spotify if you want to hear them first.
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    Thanks again for everyone's thoughtful suggestions. Much appreciated!

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    BTW, I don't know where you're located, but if it's the UK, you might try to pull up BBC's Record Review podcast that reviewed quite a few recordings of Schwanengesang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermastersvoice View Post
    For a completely unaffected, young-man-in-love approach to Schöne Müllerin, try Aksel Schiøtz with Gerald Moore. It is utterly believable, quite far removed from traditional approach to art song. If you want to look straight into the abyss with Winterreise, try Hans Hotter with Michael Raucheisen. It’s devastating and, again, quite far removed from anything recorded since.
    I agree, Schiotz and Moore are magical here. The recording is mono from 1945 but decent sound.

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    If you like a tenor voice Ian Bostridge's first Winterreise (not the more recent one) speaks well to the music. I also like Bostridge in some of the famous songs not associated with cycles such as Ganymed and An Schwager Kronos.

    If you are new to Schubert song you may wish to wait a while before tackling Winterreise. It translates to "a wniter's journey" but is a cycle about a man slowly going insane. Schubert wrote it at the end of his short life when he was dying of syphilis. He never heard it performed. It's text is complicated and is sometimes symbolic and cannot be accepted literally.

    I also enjoy Wolfgang Holzmair's Schwanengesang. Holzmair is a lyric baritone with a three octave range and the song cycle is looseleaf; Schubert didn't intend it as a cycle. The cycle content is generally friendly and far less intense than Winterreise.
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    If you're interested in a mezzo-soprano's take on Winterreise you could try Brigitte Fassbaender/Aribert Reimann on EMI.
    I think Janet Baker and Elisabeth Schwarzkopf have recorded Schubert's lieder as well, though I'm not sure whether they've sung Winterreise and Schwanengesang in their entirety.

    Back to baritones, Matthias Goerne has two superb recordings of Winterreise, one with Graham Johnson, and one with Alfred Brendel.

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    Benjamin Britten's and Peter Pears' Wintereise is wonderful. As are much of the rest of their Schubert recitals.

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