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    Quote Originally Posted by saboteur View Post
    IMHO, it's much easier to find real musicians and involve them into your project than trying to make natural sounding tracks made of samples. A couple of students that can play all parts, part by part. They are always poor and hungry and they would just be happy to get extra 10 bucks.
    Yes, that's a possibility for sure, even more so if one has their own recording facility. I've just recorded a soloist for my Violin Concerto remotely which proved successful.
    I would say that if one can use samples well and knows their way around a DAW, it's also possible to get convincing results without the hassle of organising a recording, although the effectiveness and success of such relies heavily on the type of music and samples used. Depending on how you view things one might prefer a more accurate rendition of a more complex piece within a DAW as opposed to an under-rehearsed, poorly recorded or less competent performance.

    Still, all said there's no substitute for the real thing (yet!!?), especially when it comes to samples versus real string sections and solos so I am and will always be firmly in the live/recorded performance as much as possible camp.
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    Interesting. But isn't it hard to find musicians?

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    No. I am not interested in "virtual" anything nor anything created using AI. Not only am I not interested I am strongly opposed to these endeavors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanAntone View Post
    No. I am not interested in "virtual" anything nor anything created using AI. Not only am I not interested I am strongly opposed to these endeavors.
    The real world of composing for media and Pop has a different view on the virtual orchestra SA. I know there are serious composers who 'mock-up' too, if only via a music notation programme and a good sample set - something like NotePerformer, although that does have an AI functionality. In the right hands, one can get a good feel for what's on the manuscript if the music is suitable.

    This thread isn't about AI for composing btw. If it was, I too would be less in favour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brazing View Post
    Interesting. But isn't it hard to find musicians?
    Not really. I had a fixer for my sessions when I was in the game. One only has to look up musician's directories to find what you want. There are also musicians who can remote record and you can find them on websites like Fiverr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeh375 View Post
    The real world of composing for media and Pop has a different view on the virtual orchestra SA. I know there are serious composers who 'mock-up' too, if only via a music notation programme and a good sample set - something like NotePerformer, although that does have an AI functionality. In the right hands, one can get a good feel for what's on the manuscript if the music is suitable.

    This thread isn't about AI for composing btw. If it was, I too would be less in favour.
    I may have misunderstood the thread subject. Is it about the library of orchestral samples, for use with notation software?

    The Vienna Symphonic Library as well as Garritan Personal Orchestra I am familiar with. They are useful, mainly for film scoring, but I oppose the idea of replacing a real orchestra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanAntone View Post
    I may have misunderstood the thread subject. Is it about the library of orchestral samples, for use with notation software?

    The Vienna Symphonic Library as well as Garritan Personal Orchestra I am familiar with. They are useful, mainly for film scoring, but I oppose the idea of replacing a real orchestra.
    Yes, it's about samples but not just for use with notation software but also within a DAW. Any musician will or rather should, deplore samples replacing an orchestra in the workplace, but unfortunately musicians aren't often in charge of budgets, nor are they in charge of dispensing discerning ears to those that pay for music commissions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeh375 View Post
    Yes, it's about samples but not just for use with notation software but also within a DAW. Any musician will or rather should, deplore samples replacing an orchestra in the workplace, but unfortunately musicians aren't often in charge of budgets, nor are they in charge of dispensing discerning ears to those that pay for music commissions.
    I thought they were talking about those Zoom concerts. I understand why they occurred but they made me sad.

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    I seriously have been considering if AI interference had something to do with the recent musical decay since 2008, popular music globally has been so much disfigured beyond recognition, something is missing of it compared to all earlier musical productions. If harm had been done onto pop music by AI, then when comes to classical music a totally new set ethic should be expected. Maybe not a bad idea altogather but it needs to stay complementary to the actual orchestra at the end not trying to usurp the chances for living artists in actual developments.
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