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    Quote Originally Posted by adriesba View Post
    Huh? I never asked that. I laid out four very objective questions in the OP. I never asked for a subjective opinion on whether or not the blu-ray release is worth investing in over the CD release. That was for me to decide after my questions were answered. The reason I was unsure if the blu-ray release is worth investing in was because I was unsure if the blu-ray release would actually be able to sound better.
    In the first post, you said "I've been considering buying this and want to know if it is worth paying about three times the price of the CD release"

    My apologies for misinterpreting this as a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriesba View Post
    I just really want to know if this sort of thing is worth investing in.
    I feel like I have misguided the thread with this sentence. I did not phrase this as a question.

    Perhaps another way I could have said it would be: "Because of my uncertainties regarding the four questions above, I am uncertain if blu-ray releases such as this are worth investing in."

    The reason I made this thread was not to get opinions about blu-ray releases, but to have my four questions answered.

    The main thing I wanted to know was if the Amazon review was correct. He talks about stuff like bytes or whatnot which I don't understand. Normally I would ignore one negative review, but I thought the one person's review deserved just little more consideration because he went beyond simply saying something vague and subjective like "I don't think the blu-ray sounds better than CD" or "I do think the blu-ray sounds better than the CDs."

    Whether or not the reviewer is correct, I don't know. He could be saying utter nonsense for all I know. Thus I started this thread to try to illuminate the matter.

    I still do not feel like my first question has been answered thoroughly at this point. If the reviewer is wrong, could someone explain what exactly is wrong about what he said?

    I wasn't looking for subjective answers. There are plenty of opinions on Amazon. Sorry for any confusion the OP caused or any lack of clarity therein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rice View Post
    In the first post, you said "I've been considering buying this and want to know if it is worth paying about three times the price of the CD release"

    My apologies for misinterpreting this as a question.
    No problem.
    I could have phrased the OP differently to make it clear that I was wondering about more objective aspects of the release. See post 47 for what I mean.
    Sorry about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adriesba View Post
    I mean if you were to plug headphones (assuming they are of high enough quality) directly into the headphone jack on a phone, computer, laptop, mp3 player, or whatnot.
    I've had an Onkyo app on my iPhone for many years that can handle 96/24 - but the iPhone DAC can't process 96/24 (unless its been improved recently). So you need an external DAC to get hi-rez out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorf View Post
    Typically, as I mentioned above, the CDs included (for some reason I can't discern) in the Blu-ray editions have not been remastered, unlike the Blu-ray disc. Most of the Blu-ray remasters have been done in the Emil Berliner Studios, and have been outstanding.
    That's been my (limited) experience too.

    The Bohm/BPO Mozart Symphonies box from 2018 contains a new high-resolution remaster on blu-ray, but the accompanying CDs contain the older "Original Image Bit Processing" masters. The 2018 remaster sounds better, not because it's in high-resolution but because the new remix/remaster is better balanced than the OIBP and the string sound is less strident.

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    I tend to find that the "Original Image Bit Processing" remasters from the 1990s generally don't sound very good, especially when dealing with analogue era DG recordings. I much prefer the sound of the earlier Galleria CDs for those recordings.

    Going back to Bohm/Mozart, it would be interesting to compare the new high-resolution remasters with the first CD release of the Symphonies from 1988.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    I've had an Onkyo app on my iPhone for many years that can handle 96/24 - but the iPhone DAC can't process 96/24 (unless its been improved recently). So you need an external DAC to get hi-rez out.
    Most phone and computer apps can "play" Hi-Res audio. They downssample it when the hardware isn't up to the task.

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    Quote Originally Posted by progmatist View Post
    Most phone and computer apps can "play" Hi-Res audio. They downssample it when the hardware isn't up to the task.
    As I said you need an external DAC to get 96/24 out. Otherwise, what’s the point of wasting the limited storage space on the phone. If you don’t care about hi Rez (and I rarely do from a phone given the circumstances in which I use it as a music source) you can use any of a number of tools to create a down-converted copy of the file and use that on the phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    As I said you need an external DAC to get 96/24 out. Otherwise, what’s the point of wasting the limited storage space on the phone. If you don’t care about hi Rez (and I rarely do from a phone given the circumstances in which I use it as a music source) you can use any of a number of tools to create a down-converted copy of the file and use that on the phone.
    What's more, some apps do a poor job of downsampling, so the Hi-Res version sounds even worse than the 16bit version.

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