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    Question Similar music to "Le Chant des Templiers"?

    I am looking for similar, sacred, in Latin language music to "Le Chant des Templiers" performed by Ensemble Organum. I mean very similar i.e. Medieval manly choirs, without high voices but also without extremely low voices like a basso profondo. Anyone know/recommend something like this?

    Example from "Le Chant des Templiers":

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    Your best bet is to explore Ensemble Organum's other recorded repertoire, which is reasonably extensive. Another recent release of theirs is 'Compostela', with chant from the same period as the Templar album. No high voices, and basso profundo in some tracks but not others. Their most famous recording is of Machaut's 'Messe de Nostre Dame', which is 14thC, though the mass sections are interspersed with earlier chant.

    Bjorn Schmelzer's Graindelavoix have a similar approach (and repertoire) to Marcel Peres and Ensemble Orangum. I don't think you'll find any of their albums are entirely free of high voices and BP, but there are many individual tracks which should fit the bill.

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    I explored Ensemble Organum repertoire yet before. As you wrote "Compostela" and "Messe de Nostre Dame" are most similar. However, assuming this topic I was counting on suggestions containing other artists. As for Graindelavoix, this is not the level of similarity I expect, but thanks for your interest. I know that's not easy to find such music, because I have already searched on my own, without results. That's why I put hope in this forum now.
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    For the most part, I can't give you specific Templar chants, etc., but I can offer a list of ensembles where you're most likely going to find what you're looking for.

    The first recording that comes to mind is a 3 disc Naxos compilation set, entitled "Music from the Time of the Templars", and if you have Amazon Prime, you can listen to the set in its entirety for free. It's on You Tube, as well:

    Of particular interest, Disc 2 is devoted to "Music of the Church": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe3Q...FF307&index=21
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...templarfavs-20

    Apart from Ensemble Organum, here are some other notable groups that have recorded music from the Crusades & the Gothic Age (or Age of the Cathedrals):

    Early Music Consort of London, David Munrow
    Studio der frühen Musik, Thomas Binkley
    Ensemble Gilles Binchois, Dominique Vellard
    Red Byrd
    Orlando Consort
    Medieval Ensemble of London, Peter & Timothy Davies
    Hilliard Ensemble
    Theatre of Voices, Paul Hillier
    Gothic Voices, Christopher Page
    Graindelavoix, Bjorn Schmelzer
    Sequentia
    New London Consort, Philip Pickett
    Alla Francesca
    Diabolus in Musica, Antoine Guerber
    Ensemble Musica Nova, Lucien Kandel
    Hesperion XXI, Jordi Savall

    Presently, I don't have time to go through all of the albums by these groups that I've listed below, to see if they include music that fits into what you're looking for, but they may--at least in parts. Although some of the groups do include women singers (at times), so you might want to rule those out, if they're not "manly" enough for you. Plus, the music can get transposed up. I also may have listed some albums where the music is a bit later than what you're looking for, time-wise, considering that the Templar order officially ended in 1312.

    So, we're roughly talking about two centuries of music to explore, and therefore it's going to take a fair amount of sampling on your part to find exactly what you're looking for:

    --"Millennium: Music from the Middle Ages", disc 1: Early French Polyphony: Eleventh Century Organa and Tropes, Ensemble Gilles Binchois, Dominique Vellard: the 1st disc in this set is comprised of the earliest French Polyphony from the 1000s. It may be a bit early for the Knights Templar, but it's still worth hearing I think:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_eA...s-Ft9WQmtmck4w
    https://www.amazon.com/Millennium-Po...s=music&sr=1-5
    https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...ies-francaises

    --Crusader's Song: "Pax in Nomine Domini", Hesperion XXI, Jordi Savall (from a two hybrid SACD set entitled "Jerusalem"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YxhZE81f2M
    --Crusader's Song: Chevalier, Muit Estes Guartiz, 1146, Hesperion XXI, Jordi Savall (from "Jerusalem"):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAVAgFPmzy0
    --Conductus: O Totius Asie - Anonymous (S. XIII), Hesperion XXI, Jordi Savall (from "Jerusalem"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmK6-cXi8sA

    --The Age of the Cathedrals, Theatre of Voices, Paul Hillier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrkH...xpmd4yZY5sKHxS

    --"Music of the Crusades", David Munrow, Early Music Consort of London: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjyZ...KFnLTBx0RKWvAc

    --"Ja Nus Hons Pris" (Templar Chant of Richard the Lionhearted--granted, the song is in old French, & not Latin, but I thought I'd throw it in here, since it relates so directly to the Crusades), Modo Antiquo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yvucNpRQxc

    --Richard Coeur de Lion, Troubadours et trouveres, Alla Francesca, Emmanuel Bonnardot, Brigette Lesne (again, most of this music from the Crusades is in old French, & not Latin, so you may want to bypass this recording): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hcx5...Tvs6wAw_XWkU0g.

    --"Music for the Lion-Hearted King", Gothic Voices, Christopher Page:
    https://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/dc.asp?dc=D_CDH55292
    https://www.amazon.com/Music-Lion-He...s=music&sr=1-1
    https://www.amazon.com/Music-Lion-He...s=music&sr=1-2

    --"Music of the Gothic Age", Early Music Consort of London, David Munrow:
    Perotin, Sederunt principes, from "Music of the Gothic Age": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA_XhMKH6oo
    Leonin, Gaude Maria Virgo, from "Music of the Gothic Age": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evBEmGdbsTk
    Perotin, Viderunt omnes: from "Music of the Gothic Age": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA6oq_UYbyA
    The complete "Music of the Gothic Age" recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw83gXcJnr4

    --Canto gregoriano, les tone de la musique, Ensemble Gilles Binchois, Dominque Vellard:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmNm6dVbgak
    https://www.amazon.com/gregoriano-mu...8616513&sr=1-4

    --"Chant Wars", Sequentia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVEr...CPk4KVXmo0FkjU

    --"Salve Regina: Gregorian Chant": Benedictine Monks of the Abbey of Saint-Maurice & Saint-Maur, Clervaux:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BZp...l3pD7sIi3CDOKc
    https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...regorian-chant

    --Perotin & L'Ecole de Notre Dame, Ensemble Gilles Binchois, Dominque Vellard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH65wIueXYg

    --Magister Leoninus, Red Byrd & Capella Amsterdam, volume 1: https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...ister-leoninus
    --Magister Leoninus, Red Byrd & Yorvox, volume 2: https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...ninus-volume-2

    --Polyphonies oubliees (four centuries of French polyphonic chant--there might be music early enough in this 2 CD set, but I'm not sure), Ensemble Gilles Binchois, Dominque Vellard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=230a...HCL_Gy-pSbZDTc

    --The School of Notre Dame, Orlando Consort: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wYRH49FNl0

    --Clemens Deus Artifex, La Main Harmonique, Frédéric Bétous: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=571G0vVjttI
    https://www.allmusic.com/album/cleme...x-mw0002356777

    --Messe de Nostre Dame, Guillaume Machaut, Ensemble Gilles Binchois, Dominque Vellard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KW7mZUnLKY

    --Messe de Notre Dame, Guillaume Machaut, Ensemble Musica Nova, Lucien Kandel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqLr...K5isQ2mN9LojGE

    --"Music from the Time of the Crusades" (a 2 CD compilation set):
    https://www.amazon.com/Music-Time-Cr.../dp/B000FKP56O

    --Hilliard Ensemble, Perotin: https://open.spotify.com/album/5kZW1eLPUuntVmdiph4BwB

    --Confréreies: Devotional songs by Jaikes de Cambrai: Graindelavoix, Bjorn Schmelzer:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR7Z...kBUi3VoFdxBadI
    https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...kes-de-cambrai

    --Carmina Gallica, Latin Songs of the 12th century, Diabolus in Musica, Antoine Guerber:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0Hm...yupvb6cufRHlSU
    https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...armina-gallica

    --"Paris Expers Paris", Ecole de Notre-Dame, 1170-1240: Diabolus in Musica, Antoine Guerber:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcrP...EodO-7T0FUcOgc
    https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...-eithout-equal

    --Polyphonies de Notre-Dame de Paris XIIe et XIIIe siécles, Diabolus in Musica, Antoine Guerber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfrw...4CdoURe-rwiQk0

    --"Mary Star of the Sea", Gothic Voices--"Sancta Maria virgo": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq1I...y6M_0&index=14

    --Motets: The Cambrai manuscript A 410, Graindelavoix, Bjorn Schmelzer:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PrL...KOFNn7lCxl3mJ4
    https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...nuscript-a-410

    --Ce Diabolic Chant, Medieval Ensemble of London, Peter & Timothy Davies (again, these songs are mostly in old French & not Latin, but it's remarkable music...): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9Cx...iyFHuUVESnUA7k

    --Carmina Burana ("Songs from Beuern" in Latin), New London Consort, Philip Pickett:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgrW...E-M3o5PWntOfE_
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AK8...4OMpk&index=15
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKt7...PvE3oiygLZufO8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzd9...YIp6b14t7yK_mQ

    Lastly, have you considered these further Medieval discs from Ensemble Organum? (EDIT: I see you've already addressed this question, with another poster):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YSC...kR9lm75Se8EYZs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCku...9xn10MWM706TV8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gEV42RKf6E
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZriekmIn0E

    I hope you find what you're looking for.
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    Thank you for your time Josquin13 and many proposals, which orbit around what I am looking for. However, they are still too far away for me.
    Well, I have to enjoy the works of Ensemble Organum with the greater pleasure, because it seems that they are quite unique.

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