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    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyGeorge View Post
    I will also pick up his recordings of Dvořák (Requiem & Stabat Mater)
    I forgot about these two recordings - both among my favorites of these works.

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    Sawallisch was a terrific conductor who seemed more interested in making great music than being in the limelight. His recordings are all "honest". Well done, musical, and respectful of the composer. Some people think he was dull, but not to me. The Wagner operas recorded live at Bayreauth on Philips are exciting, dramatic and show a side of him most people don't know. In his last year with Philadelphia he took the orchestra to Carnegie Hall and played something else not associated with him much: Franz Schmidt's 2nd Symphony. They played the daylights out of the thing. Sawallisch had full measure of the difficult score and led a blazing performance. One which should have (and still could) be released on CD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    I really only like his Schumann set.
    His Brahms and Beethoven are blah.
    His Strauss is pretty good and his Wagner operas are very good.
    I take back what I said about his Brahms.
    I received this today and it's great!
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    I take back what I said about his Brahms.
    I received this today and it's great!
    Interested in any impressions you have of these in comparison to other Brahms symphony performances you like. In #13 I wrote that I find Sawallisch’s transparent but comparatively thin. I do like them and go back to them as interesting and enjoyable alternatives to the more lush versions. I agree with what mbhaub wrote in #17, so I believe any Brahms lover would profit from listening to Sawallisch’s interpretations of the symphonies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicissimus View Post
    Interested in any impressions you have of these in comparison to other Brahms symphony performances you like. In #13 I wrote that I find Sawallisch’s transparent but comparatively thin. I do like them and go back to them as interesting and enjoyable alternatives to the more lush versions. I agree with what mbhaub wrote in #17, so I believe any Brahms lover would profit from listening to Sawallisch’s interpretations of the symphonies.
    I didn't find them thin at all. I heard good forward momentum, powerful horns and plenty off power. The Wiener Symphoniker are brilliant. Sawallisch holds the perfectly together. Not as idiomatic as Klemperer or Levine (2 of my favorites,or as rich as the digital Abbado, but definitely high on my list. I'm thrilled to own it.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    I take back what I said about his Brahms.
    I received this today and it's great!
    Funny thing I bought for less than a dollar and put it away. I pulled it out tonight and plan to listen to all of the symphonies. I am listening to the 1st and so far so good.

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    I enjoy his Schumann symphonies, Schubert masses, and especially his wonderful Mendelssohn Elijah which is my favorite version after the unforgettable 1947 Sargent recording.

    I got bored by his Beethoven and sold it back. I believe I once had his Wagner orchestral music a while back that I also sold back in favor of Karajan EMI for modern sounding versions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    I take back what I said about his Brahms.
    I received this today and it's great!
    I have this set and the LPO set and interpretively they are quite different. The VSO set is more consistent, energetic and alive but not as well recorded as his later set. All the symphonies come off pretty well but lack weight. The LPO set is on the slower side and theres a pretty boring symphony 2 and a tedious symphony 1 in that set. 3 is much better and 4 is superb.
    Last edited by Merl; May-13-2020 at 07:45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merl View Post
    I have this set and the LPO set and interpretively they are quite different. The VSO set is more consistent, energetic and alive but not as well recorded as his later set. All the symphonies come off pretty well but lack weight. The LPO set is on the slower side and theres a pretty boring symphony 2 and a tedious symphony 1 in that set. 3 is much better and 4 is superb.
    Interesting. I’ve never heard the LSO set. As for the VSO, my impression tracks closely with yours: energetic and consistent, lacks weight, and not terribly well recorded. I feel the lacking weight is a byproduct of the search for transparency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merl View Post
    I have this set and the LPO set and interpretively they are quite different. The VSO set is more consistent, energetic and alive but not as well recorded as his later set. All the symphonies come off pretty well but lack weight. The LPO set is on the slower side and theres a pretty boring symphony 2 and a tedious symphony 1 in that set. 3 is much better and 4 is superb.
    I am listening to the second symphony (Weiner) and I was surprised how good it was (60s sound and all). To my ears the lack of weight is not noticeable but I think 2 fares better than 1 or 3. Plan to hear 4 later. I never heard the other set.

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    Or maybe I should ask that the 60's sound is the reason for the lack of weight?

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    i do find #2 to be lighter in weight than the others.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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