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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    Gilels and Reiner for me too. I liked Cliburn's playing the most, but the trumpets ruined it with Kondrashin, starting at 2:28. Those trumpets are too clear in the balance, and aren't in time sometimes which spoils it for me. From 2:52 to 2:58 where the trumpets accent the beats is just unbearable.

    I love this version which wa# the bes5 selling classical record of all time filling van Cliburn’s triumph in Moscow in the Cold War. Can’t say the trumpets gave ever bothered me.

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    The Tchaikovsky 1 was the first classical LP I ever bought as a boy and it cost me 19/11 (99p approx) on the old Decca Ace of Clubs label. I played it and played it on my old record player. It was a terrific virtuoso version but not that well recorded as I remember. Or maybe just the old record player I had been using for pop records up to that point!
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    Hough/Minnesota/Vanska (Hyperion)

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    Subdin/Sao Paulo/Neschling (BIS)

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    Mahler, Glass, Beethoven, Vaughan Williams, Wolfe, Liszt, Reich, Bach, Nyman, Schubert

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    Yes, Sudbin and Neschling are fabulous. Such inventive playing by Sudbin and Neschling’s rhythmically alert accompaniment gives life to an old war horse. However, if I’m only allowed one version, it would have to be

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    One is convinced, within a few bars of the opening big tune, often criticized for being out of step with what follows; terribly exciting but meaningless. Except with Richter under Ancerl. The piano and the orchestra is actually playing the same tune, and because they are not wallowing in it, like later Karajan did with Richter, but adopt a clear sense of direction, the opening becomes a prelude to what follows, not a tone poem on its own. And, yes it’s of course superbly played.

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    the best I know ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nereffid View Post
    Hough/Minnesota/Vanska (Hyperion)

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    "Best" is always such a problematic word in these kinds of threads. The Hyperion recording is certainly very fine (and as the 50th in their wonderful Romantic Piano Concerto series, the only one to get its own box cover).

    My old standby has always been Victoria Postnikova on piano, with Gennadi Rozhdestvensky (the soloist's husband) conducting the Vienna Symphony Orchestra (on the London CD label). The two CDs, issued separately, cover the three concertos by Tchaikovsky.

    Do we have recordings based on the earlier version of the score?

    Edit: I see that this recording claims to be the 1879 version:

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    I have ordered a copy.
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    It's one where I have an absolutely clear favorite:

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    The very first record that I bought with my monthly allowance when I was a kid was Tchaikovsky Concerto 1, it was a wall worn used 10" vinyl, the pianist was Ania Dorfmann.
    These days I do not listen to this concerto all that much but if I ever go back to it it would be Gilels/Reiner, there is nothing else that comes even close to this performance.

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    I didn't count but get the impression that Gilels/Reiner is the crowd favorite. As I remember from that time, when Gilels was sweeping through the West as Soviet Hero Pianist, he was telling people everywhere he went; "Wait 'till you hear Richter!" And Richter came and recorded the Brahms 2nd!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbhaub View Post

    But to my ears the most electrifying stereo version is one that not many people know. It's sensational!
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    Yes I have this too. Terrific! Nelson Freiere has become the elder statesman but he was once the young barnstormer!
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    This is my current favorite, recorded in 1987 when he was 16 years old! I also like Van Cliburn's.


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    It is interesting that when Ashkenazy was asked in later years about his involvement in the Tchaikovsky competition he said he never really liked to play the concerto as it didn’t suit his hands. Surprising given his advocacy of the Rachmaninov concertos. Of course he was forced to play by the Soviet authorities and told he must win. They were again embarrassed by a certain John Ogden but were able to cover their blushes by awarding a joint first prize. It probably did Ogden a better favour than winning on his own as Ashkenazy was by that time and established international name and sharing first prize with him was quite an achievement.
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    Of course there are three legendary recordings by this lady on my shelves.
    With Dutoit:

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    Kondrashin live:

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    Abando:

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    And Pletnev’s imperious account:

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    Horowitz with Szell and New York Philharmonic is a high-voltage item that is worth seeking out.

    I really dislike the opening of this concerto, so I usually skip it to get to the good stuff!

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