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    Anderson, J.: American Choruses (4) [2004]
    Atterberg: String Quartet #3 in D, op. 39 [1937]
    Bryars: String Quartet #1 "Between the National and the Bristol" [1985]
    Daugherty: Deus Ex Machina [2007]
    Thorvaldsdottir: In the Light of Air [2014]
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    Vierk: Words Fail Me [2005]

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    Reger: String Sextet in F, op. 118 [1910]

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    Crecquillon: Missa Mort m'a privé [1540s]

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    Lizée: Hitchcock Études [2010]

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    Ysaÿe - Poème Nocturne for violin, cello, and orchestra, op. 29 [1927]

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    Pickard: String Quartet #4 [1997-8]
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    I think I might have made a bit of a mistake on the count for the 107th tier, but it'll be okay. Fixing it would mean moving fewer works up, and I suspect that might not be the more popular decision! We'll just have a few too few works on the 107th tier until the next time we do the 108th, and a few too many on the 106th until the next time we do it.

    So anyway:

    Our votes on the 107th tier, part 1 selected the following works...

    To move up 2 to the 105th tier:
    Abelard: Planctus David super Saul et Ionatha [or "Jonatha" or "Jonathan"] "Dolorum solatium" [12th century]
    Agricola: Missa in myne zyn [c. 1500]
    Anonymous, French: Codex Montpellier [c. 1250-1300]
    Anonymous: Codex Calixtinus [early 12th century]
    Arcadelt: Primo libro de madrigali (Book I) [1539]
    Bach: Cantata #170 "Vergnügte Ruh, beliebte Seelenlust" [1726]
    Bax: Harp Quintet [1919]
    Binchois: Triste plaisir et douloureuse joie [by 1434]
    Bridge: Cello Sonata in D minor, H. 125 [1913-7]
    Campra: Messe de Requiem [after 1723]
    Cardoso: Missa Miserere mihi Domine [17th century]
    Cardoso: Requiem [17th century]
    Clemens non Papa: Ego flos campi à 7 [1550]
    Clemens non Papa: Pater Peccavi [1554]
    Coleridge-Taylor: Clarinet Quintet in F-sharp minor, op. 10 [1906]
    Compère: Missa Galeazescha [c. 1474]
    Corelli: Trio Sonatas (12), op. 3 [1689]

    To move up 1 to the 106th tier:
    Abel: Symphonies, op. 7 [1767]
    Abelard: O quanta qualia [between 1130 and 1142]
    Adams: China Gates [1977]
    Akses: Violin Concerto [1972]
    Allegri: Missa Che fa oggi il mio sole [17th cent.]
    Andreae: Piano Trio #2 in E-flat, op. 14 [1908]
    Anonymous (compiled by Hermann Pötzlinger): The Mensural Codex of St. Emmeram [15th century]
    Arnold: Symphony #2, op. 40 [1953]
    Arriaga: Symphony in D [1824]
    Atterberg: Violin Concerto in E minor, op. 7 [1913]
    Avraamov: Symphony of Factory Sirens [1922]
    Bach: Cantata #29 "Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir" [1731]
    Bach: Cantata #75 "Die Elenden sollen essen" [1723]
    Bantock: Omar Khayyám [1909]
    Beach: Romance for Violin and Piano, op. 23 [1893]
    Beethoven: Piano Trio #3 in C minor, op. 1/3 [1795]
    Beethoven: Rondo a capriccio in G, op. 129 "Rage Over a Lost Penny" [1795]
    Bloch: Baal Shem, B. 47 [1923]
    Brahms: Piano Sonata #1 in C, op. 1 [1853]
    Brahms: Songs (4), op. 96, including "Der Tod, das ist die kühle Nacht" and "Wir wandelten, wir zwei zusammen" [1884]
    Britten: A Midsummer Night's Dream, op. 64 [1960]
    Britten: Piano Concerto, op. 13 [1938; rev. 1945]
    Buxtehude: Cantata "Herzlich lieb hab ich dich, o Herr", BuxWV 41
    Buxtehude: Violin Sonata in G minor, op. 2/3; BuxWV 261 [1696]
    Cage: Fontana Mix [1958]
    Carter: Piano Concerto [1964]
    Carver: Missa Dum sacrum mysterium [c. 1510]
    Casella: Symphony #3 (Sinfonia), op. 63 [1939-40]
    Castillon: Piano Concerto in D, op. 12 [1871]
    Charpentier: Les plaisirs de Versailles [1682]
    Debussy: Images Oubliées [1894]
    Delius: The Song of the High Hills [1911]

    To remain on the 107th tier:
    Britten: The Prince of the Pagodas, op. 57 [1957]
    Cage: Dream [1948]
    Cage: Suite for Toy Piano [1948]
    Caplet: Le Miroir de Jésus [1923]
    Cui: Preludes (25), op. 64 [1903]

    To move down 1 to the 108th tier:
    Aperghis: Avis de Tempête [2004]
    Copland: Dance Symphony [1930]
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    Boulanger, L.: D'un soir triste [1918]

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    Dvořák: String Quartet #4 in E minor, B. 19 [1870]

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    Our votes on the 95th tier, part 1 selected the following works...

    To move up 2 to the 93rd tier:
    Agricola: Fortuna Desperata [probably before 1480]
    Aho: Theremin Concerto "Eight Seasons" [2011]
    Anonymous, Bavarian Manuscript: Carmina Burana [13th cent.]
    Babadjanian: Piano Trio in F-sharp minor [1952]
    Barber: Capricorn Concerto, op. 21 [1944]
    Ciconia: Una panthera [c. 1400]
    Clemens non Papa: Missa Pro Defunctis [16th cent.]
    Fauré: Mélodies (2), op. 46, including "Clair de lune" [1887]
    Giordano: Andrea Chénier [1896]
    Griffes: The Pleasure Dome of Kubla Khan, op. 8 [1912; rev. 1915]
    Kagel: Music for Renaissance Instruments [1966]
    Kapsberger: Libro primo d'intavolatura di lauto [1611]
    Krenek: Lamentatio Jeremiae Prophetae, op. 93 [1941]
    Kuhnau: Biblical Sonatas [1700]
    Lindberg: Aura (In memoriam Witold Lutosławski) [1994]
    Lobo: Missa pro defunctis à 8 [1621]

    To move up 1 to the 94th tier:
    Bach, Johann Christian: Keyboard Concertos, op. 7 [1770]
    Barber: Prayers of Kierkegaard [1954]
    Bax: Piano Quartet in One Movement [1906]
    Beethoven: Piano Sonata #19 in G minor, op. 49/1 [1795-8]
    Bloch: Concerto Grosso #2 [1952]
    Bloch: Violin Sonata #2 "Poème mystique" [1924]
    Boieldieu: Harp Concerto in C [c. 1801]
    Browne: O Maria Salvatoris mater (from the Eton Choirbook) [c. 1490]
    Browne: Stabat iuxta Christi crucem [probably 1502]
    Charpentier: Messe de minuit pour Noël, H. 9 [c. 1694]
    Cherubini: Missa Solemnis #2 in D minor [1811]
    Cornysh: Salve regina [by 1502]
    Dufay: Missa Ecce ancilla Domini [probably early 1460s]
    Frescobaldi: Il Primo libro di Toccate e Partite d'Intavolatura di Cimbalo [1615; rev. 1637]
    Hindemith: Nobilissima Visione [1938]
    Hummel: Septet #2 in C "Military", op. 114 [1829]
    Josquin: Missa de Beata Virgine [c. 1510]
    Karłowicz: Violin Concerto in A, op. 8 [1902]
    La Rue: Requiem (Missa pro defunctis) [c. 1506?]

    To remain on the 95th tier:
    Adams: Grand Pianola Music [1982]
    Arnold: Symphony #4, op. 71 [1960]
    Balakirev: Symphony #1 in C [1898]
    Bartók: Kossuth, Sz. 21, BB. 31 [1903]
    Beethoven: Bagatelles (6), op. 126 [1824]
    Bellini: I Capuleti e i Montecchi [1830]
    Bloch: Violin Sonata #1 [1920]
    Boulez: Livre pour cordes [1968, rev. 1988]
    Britten: Curlew River, op. 71 [1964]
    Bruckner: Symphony #1 in C minor [1866]
    Cherubini: Mass #11 in A "For the Coronation of Charles X" [1825]
    Dennehy: Stainless Staining [2007]
    Dufay: Ave Maris Stella [before 1505]
    Dupré: Symphonie-Passion, op. 23 [1924]
    Finzi: Intimations of Immortality, op. 29 [1950]
    Handel: Theodora, HWV 68 [1750]
    Haydn: Symphony #91 in E-flat [1788]
    Ives: Psalm 90 [1924]
    Janáček: Mládí (Youth) [1924]
    Josquin: Missa L’ami Baudichon [probably before 1479]
    Klami: Kalevala Suite, op. 23 [1943]
    Koechlin: Paysages et Marines, op. 63 [1916]

    To move down 1 to the 96th tier:
    Handel: La resurrezione, HWV 47 [1708]
    Ives: 114 Songs [1922]
    Liszt: Orpheus, S.98 [1854]
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    Quote Originally Posted by science View Post
    To move down 1 to the 96th tier:
    Handel: La resurrezione, HWV 47 [1708]
    Ives: 114 Songs [1922]
    Liszt: Orpheus, S.98 [1854]
    Aargh, how did I miss this one?? I could have saved all 3 from relegation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nereffid View Post
    Aargh, how did I miss this one?? I could have saved all 3 from relegation!
    I feel a little badly about La resurrezione's fate. I should've voted for it....

    I probably don't feel quite badly enough to create a reference thread -- but that would move it up ten tiers, passing about 500 works....
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    So I just added up the top 60 tiers (which have the top 1000 works), giving a work 125 points on tier 1, 124 points on tier 2, and so on, to find out how highly we rank each composer. This method is of course highly scientific and altogether unquestionable, impeccable, infallible, divine -- nay, let us shrink not from declaring it, in unison with the angels, objective.

    #1: Beethoven
    #2: Bach
    #3: Brahms
    #4: Mozart
    #5: Haydn
    #6: Schubert
    #7: Shostakovich
    #8: Debussy
    #9: Schumann
    #10: Ravel
    #11: Dvorak
    #12: Mahler
    #13: Bartok
    #14: Sibelius
    #15: Prokofiev
    #16: Chopin
    #17: Tchaikovsky
    #18: Fauré
    #19: Vaughan Williams
    #20: Mendelssohn
    #21: Strauss (R)
    #22: Stravinsky
    #23: Scriabin
    #24: Schoenberg
    #25: Liszt
    #26: Handel
    #27: Ligeti
    #28: Wagner
    #29: Saint-Saens
    #30: Barber
    #31: Webern
    #32: Rachmaninoff
    #33: Berg
    #34: Bruckner
    #35: Elgar
    #36: Grieg
    #37: Janacek
    #38: Nielsen
    #39: Ives
    #40: Hummel
    #41: Josquin
    #42: Verdi
    #43: Messiaen
    #44: Berlioz
    #45: Schnittke
    #46: Copland
    #47: Franck
    #48: Dohnanyi
    #49: Bruch
    #50: Finzi
    #51: Boulez
    #52: Monteverdi
    #53: Gershwin
    #54: Puccini
    #55: Chausson
    #56: Martinu
    #57: Byrd
    #58: Glazunov
    #59: Rimsky-Korsakov
    #60: Poulenc
    #61: Medtner
    #62: Gubaidulina
    #63: Mussorgsky
    #64: Weber
    #65: Smetana
    #66: Ockeghem
    #67: Bloch
    #68: Bizet
    #69 (tie): Borodin, Hindemith
    #71: Takemitsu
    #72: Pärt
    #73: Respighi
    #74: Cage
    #75: Britten
    #76: Honegger
    #77: Falla
    #78: Adams
    #79: Nono
    #80: Lassus
    #81: Lutoslawski
    #82: Bax
    #83: Enescu
    #84: Vivaldi
    #85: Atterberg
    #86: Glass
    #87: Gesualdo
    #88: Rodrigo
    #89: Tallis
    #90: Kodaly
    #91: Biber
    #92: Vasks
    #93: Crumb
    #94: Machaut
    #95 (tie): Lalo, Satie
    #97: Haas
    #98 (tie): Albeniz, Dufay
    #100: Hildegard
    #101 (tie): Dutilleux, Magnard
    #103: Zemlinski
    #104: Granados
    #105 (tie): Perotin, Rameau, Reich
    #108: Abrahamsen
    #109 (tie): Purcell, Stockhausen
    #111: Feldman
    #112: Villa-Lobos
    #113: Cherubini
    #114 (tie): Moeran, Taneyev
    #116 (tie): Bridge, Victoria
    #118: Reger
    #119: Alkan
    #120 (tie): Penderecki, Suk, Varese
    #123: Xenakis
    #124: Carter
    #125 (tie): Gounod, Khachaturian
    #127: Saariaho
    #128 (tie): Gliere, Hahn
    #130: Walton
    #132: Donizetti, Scarlatti (D)
    #133 (tie): Holst, Palestrina
    #135: Alwyn
    #136: Gorecki
    #137: Canteloube
    #138: Szymanowski
    #139 (tie): Corelli, Dowland
    #141: Durufle
    #142: Buxtehude
    #143: Beach
    #144 (tie): Allegri, Grofé
    #146 (tie): Berio, Orff
    #148 (tie): Arensky, Dukas
    #150: Sculthorpe
    #151 (tie): Rautavaara, Rzewski
    #153 (tie): Ornstein, Wolf
    #155: Langgaard
    #156 (tie): Pettersson, Schmidt
    #158: Scelsi
    #159 (tie): Korngold, Milhaud, Myaskovsky
    #162: Gluck
    #163 (tie): Brumel, Revueltas, Zelenka
    #166 (tie): Antheil, Bernstein, Murail
    #169 (tie): Caldara, Glinka, Rott, Schutz
    #173 (tie): Bliss, Busoni, Charpentier, Gabrieli
    #177: Rebel, Romitelli, Ruggles
    #180 (tie): Crawford Seeger, Rossini
    #182 (tie): Furrer, Telemann
    #184 (tie): Butterworth, Couperin, Ginastera, Weinberg
    #188 (tie): Moszkowski, Sarasate
    #190 (tie): Gombert, Hovhaness, Pachelbel, Paganini, Riley, Rubinstein
    #196 (tie): Gernsheim, Grisey, Lauridsen, Nancarrow
    #200 (tie): Babbitt, CPE Bach, Hanson, Lekeu, Rochberg, Ropartz, Taverner, Wieniawski

    So I guess that just about settles that.
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    Dohnanyi in the top 50? I don't recall ever seeing much talk of him on TC. This is what I love about attempts to make comprehensive lists. Where some will see that list and be all OMG that composer in that position is WRONG this list is so STOOPID!!1!, I just make a mental note: pay more attention to Dohnanyi.

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