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    Quote Originally Posted by pianozach View Post
    If you're worried about the time, you could listen to all nine Symphonies simultaneously.



    Berliner Philharmoniker, Herbert von Karajan
    Masterpiece!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gvn View Post
    Delayed afterthought: I think if any orchestra ever did the complete Beethoven cycle in a single day, there would have to be a row of substitutes sitting on a reserves bench, waiting to take over whenever one of the 1st violins dropped from arthritis or exhaustion and was carried out on a stretcher.
    LOL!! the woodwind players would be dead as well....if they managed to last thru Sym #8 by some extraordinary effort, Sym #9 would kill them off...LvB 9 is the extreme test for endurance [standard repertoire] - esp the first 3 mvts - non-stop playing, tons of solos, soli, exposed parts....

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    Not all 9 in one day! When I buy a cycle, I listen to one per day.

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    I just listened to the Bohm/VPO all the way through and still find it one of the most consistent cycles out there. The two main issues are a slow basic tempo for the 5th and the finale of the 9th. But 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, and 8 are all top notch examples of the European tradition in excellent sound with glorious playing from the VPO. 4 may well be the reference version of this symphony next to Karajan ‘62.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pianozach View Post
    If you're worried about the time, you could listen to all nine Symphonies simultaneously.



    Berliner Philharmoniker, Herbert von Karajan

    What's funny is that people would still complain about the conductor's interpretation of the music.
    Last edited by Olias; Oct-25-2021 at 02:09.

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    I have done a few times over the years and 1 to 9 seemed the obvious logical way to do it.

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    I think I've listened to them in every possible order imaginable over the years. Maybe not.

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    Symphony 1: I
    Symphony 2: II
    Symphony 3: III
    Symphony 4: IV

    Symphony 5: I
    Symphony 6: II
    Symphony 7: III
    Symphony 8: IV

    Symphony 9: I
    Symphony 1: II
    Symphony 2: III
    Symphony 3: IV

    Etc.

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    Its funny how several posters thought the original post said listening to all in one day when he never said that at all. Interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merl View Post
    I think I've listened to them in every possible order imaginable over the years. Maybe not.
    With 9! possible orders, and assuming (i) a very conservative 5 hours playing time for the complete cycle, and (ii) you listened to them non-stop even in your sleep, it would take you over 207 years... I don't believe you.

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    Also, Merl owns and has reviewed dozens of different cycles. Gotta factor that In!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brahmsianhorn View Post
    I just listened to the Bohm/VPO all the way through and still find it one of the most consistent cycles out there. The two main issues are a slow basic tempo for the 5th and the finale of the 9th. But 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, and 8 are all top notch examples of the European tradition in excellent sound with glorious playing from the VPO. 4 may well be the reference version of this symphony next to Karajan ‘62.
    This must have been incredibly widely printed - I see the Bohm Beethoven box all the time in record shops. At least of the ones on vinyl, I have that and the Kletzki Czech Phil - both wonderful quality.

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    Whenever I've listened to all nine, whether in one day or spread over a couple, I've listened to them in numerical order. I think here's an order I'll try next time:

    1 & 5 (C major then C minor but ending in C major).
    3 & 8 (E-flat major then F major).
    6 & 4 (F major then B-flat major).
    2 & 7 (D major then A major).
    9 in D minor as usual all by its lonesome self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorf View Post
    Whenever I've listened to all nine, whether in one day or spread over a couple, I've listened to them in numerical order. I think here's an order I'll try next time:

    1 & 5 (C major then C minor but ending in C major).
    3 & 8 (E-flat major then F major).
    6 & 4 (F major then B-flat major).
    2 & 7 (D major then A major).
    9 in D minor as usual all by its lonesome self.
    Isn't this the way that the Paavo Jarvi cycle is divided?

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    I wonder if there is a good order with closest harmonic relations (dominant, subdominant, parallel/relative minor/major) between neighbors.

    7-2-9-8-1-6-4-3-5 would be one such option A-D-d-F-C-F-B-Eb-c

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