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Thread: Recommended Mahler Symphonies, 11 Different Conductors, 11 Different Orchestras

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    Duncan, I have clicked the "like" button just to keep you happy.

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    OK just from the ones I have on my shelf. Not necessarily the best as we have to restrict ourselves to one conductor for each:

    1. Kubelik / BRSO

    2. Jurowski / LPO

    3. Mehta / LAPO

    4. Szell / Cleveland

    5. Barbirolli / Philarmonia

    6. Bernstein / VPO

    7. Abaddo / BPO

    8. Tennsedt / LPO

    9. Karajan / BPO

    DLVDE Klemperer / Philarmonia

    10. Rattle / BSO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan View Post
    Especially in light of the fact that the Knorfmeister asked for "recommendations" rather than requesting that each selection represent one's favourite for that particular work... Casting completely warranted aspersions on our collective integrity - for shame... for shame...

    Henceforth to be known as "Becca the Cynic" or perhaps "Becca the Contemptuous"...

    She should receive a yellow card for unsportsmanlike conduct...

    And so should Merl for incessant whingeing about Mahler's 8th -












    So I spend like 10 maybe 15 minutes writing this reply to Merl which is virtually ignored by everyone except Becca the Cynic/Becca the Contemptuous who clicked the "Like" button - wait... make that "Becca the Ginger Beauty" - I don't get nearly enough likes to needlessly antagonize anyone... I worked really hard on that "mitsingen" concept and I'm still bitter over the lack of appreciation... but I digress...

    This is my reply to Merl -



    And this is Merl's reply -



    On second thought Merl should receive a second yellow card thus leading to a an automatic red card and his dismissal from the field of play or any thread in which Mahler's 8th is going to be mentioned...
    LOL, are you stalking me Duncan? You crack me up, man. Apologies, I do go on about it a bit (well a lot). Does my red card mean I'm suspended from this thread for its' entirety?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merl View Post
    LOL, are you stalking me Duncan? You crack me up, man. Apologies, I do go on about it a bit (well a lot). Does my red card mean I'm suspended from this thread for its' entirety?
    If it was up to me, Merl, you would receive that red card and an automatic suspension lasting from one to three threads... but it's not up to me - it's Knorf-by-Knorfwest's thread and thus we'll have to wait for a ruling from him... He'll probably go pretty light on the sentencing - he's taken the concept of equanimity and developed it into something approaching a true art form... I find this behaviour to be oddly disconcerting...
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    Well, this thread has certainly been great to guide my Mahler listening, even if I failed the compliance test! This Jurowski Mahler 2 that keeps being mentioned has piqued my interest; I’ve never even heard of it and was barely even aware of the conductor’s existence. Shall have to seek it out.

    BTW Duncan, I think you’re the most entertaining person on this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegro Con Brio View Post
    Well, this thread has certainly been great to guide my Mahler listening, even if I failed the compliance test! This Jurowski Mahler 2 that keeps being mentioned has piqued my interest; I’ve never even heard of it and was barely even aware of the conductor’s existence. Shall have to seek it out.

    BTW Duncan, I think you’re the most entertaining person on this forum
    That makes a grand total of two of us who think so! -
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    Let's give it a shot...

    No.1 - Halász/Polish National RSO/Naxos
    No.2 - Klemperer/Philharmonia/EMI
    No.3 - Haitink/RCO/Philips
    No.4 - Reiner/Chicago/RCA
    No.5 - Barshai/Junge Deutsche Philharmonie/Brilliant
    No.6 - Mitropoulos/New York/Archipel
    No.7 - Abbado/Berlin/DG
    No.8 - Tennstedt/London Philharmonic/LPO Live
    Das Lied - Walter/Ferrier/Patzak/Vienna/Decca
    No.9 - Ancerl/Czech Philharmonic/Supraphon
    No.10 - Dausgaard/Seattle/Seattle Symphony Media

    Not so bad, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan View Post
    That makes a grand total of two of us who think so! -
    2.5 ... I'm still undecided

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegro Con Brio View Post
    ...This Jurowski Mahler 2 that keeps being mentioned has piqued my interest; I’ve never even heard of it and was barely even aware of the conductor’s existence. Shall have to seek it out...
    Vladimir Jurowski is the third generation of Jurowski's with a professional music career. He has been Chief of the LPO for quite some time and is also Chief at RSO Berlin and from 2021 also of the Bavarian State Opera. He is a very focused and educated conductor with an interesting view on composers. I heard him conduct the RCO last year in Jeux by Debussy, Messiaen's Oiseaux exotiques, the pianoconcerto by Birtwistle and La Valse by Ravel. Already a great program and he made an event of it. Afterwards there was a meet up and we managed to talk with him briefly. A very interesting person. His Mahler recordings with the LPO are great and the 2nd is quite famous. Of course it also helps that he recorded it on the orchestra's private label, which helps to reach level 3 compliance I am actually surprised by the many listings of this recording in this thread, as it is of a relatively recent date.

    Pls go listen to him, he is worth your time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan View Post
    If it was up to me, Merl, you would receive that red card and an automatic suspension lasting from one to three threads... but it's not up to me - it's Knorf-by-Knorfwest's thread and thus we'll have to wait for a ruling from him... He'll probably go pretty light on the sentencing - he's taken the concept of equanimity and developed it into something approaching a true art form... I find this behaviour to be oddly disconcerting...
    Official ruling: no infraction.

    Please proceed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NLAdriaan View Post
    Vladimir Jurowski is the third generation of Jurowski's with a professional music career. He has been Chief of the LPO for quite some time and is also Chief at RSO Berlin and from 2021 also of the Bavarian State Opera. He is a very focused and educated conductor with an interesting view on composers. I heard him conduct the RCO last year in Jeux by Debussy, Messiaen's Oiseaux exotiques, the pianoconcerto by Birtwistle and La Valse by Ravel. Already a great program and he made an event of it. Afterwards there was a meet up and we managed to talk with him briefly. A very interesting person. His Mahler recordings with the LPO are great and the 2nd is quite famous. Of course it also helps that he recorded it on the orchestra's private label, which helps to reach level 3 compliance I am actually surprised by the many listings of this recording in this thread, as it is of a relatively recent date.

    Pls go listen to him, he is worth your time!
    The Mahler 2 is terrific. Best out there imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegro Con Brio View Post

    BTW Duncan, I think you’re the most entertaining person on this forum
    Pah, the man's a total charlatan. I'm defriending him.

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    Thanks to this thread Jurowski and that recording of Mahler 2 is now on my radar. But I do have this to ask: does Jurowski's recording beat Tennstedt's with the same orchestra on the same label? Because that recording is amazing.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorf View Post
    Official ruling: no infraction.

    Please proceed.
    No infraction for incessant whingeing about Mahler's 8th?!

    Non-stop post after post thread after thread day after day week after week month after month year after year decade after decade incessant whingeing about Mahler's 8th?!

    Apparently this thread is now under the jurisdiction of the Australian No-Rules Football League...

    Hold on... let's check something out, eh?...

    Well, well, well... Look who's on the centre referee's "Friends List"... None other than "Merl the Incessant Whinger" himself...

    J'Accuse…!

    The Canadian side will continue to play - under protest.

    Please proceed...
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    Duncan, that's a yellow card for dissent.

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