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    Please note that to mark the 250 anniversary of Beethoven BBC4 (UK) is broadcasting three hour long documentary programmes on Monday nights beginning tonight (July 6) at 9pm.

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    Thanks DavidA. I'll record thst later.

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    Duh, pity it's not available outside the UK . Thanks DavidA for creating the thread though. How come there wasn't one before?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by annaw View Post
    Duh, pity it's not available outside the UK . Thanks DavidA for creating the thread though. How come there wasn't one before?!
    It depends on where you live, here in Europe we have a about 5 BBC channels
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerx View Post
    It depends on where you live, here in Europe we have a about 5 BBC channels
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    Yea, probably depends on the telecommunications company as well, but I think we have only two BBC channels or something in Estonia... Not entirely sure though.

    Luckily I have all those Beethoven string quartet recordings to listen to .
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    Please note that to mark the 250 anniversary of Beethoven BBC4 (UK) is broadcasting three hour long documentary programmes on Monday nights beginning tonight (July 6) at 9pm.
    I get hundreds of stations from all over the world including BBC4 on internet radio but it is now too late (10:58pm) just cant win unless it is available as pod cast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrdoc View Post
    I get hundreds of stations from all over the world including BBC4 on internet radio but it is now too late (10:58pm) just cant win unless it is available as pod cast.
    I do think DavidA is talking about TV. I did programmed it for recording.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrdoc View Post
    I get hundreds of stations from all over the world including BBC4 on internet radio but it is now too late (10:58pm) just cant win unless it is available as pod cast.
    Sorry it is BBC 4 TV in the UK. It will also be on BBCi player online. You can also check YouTube in case someone puts it on there
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    Sorry it is BBC 4 TV in the UK. It will also be on BBCi player online. You can also check YouTube in case someone puts it on there
    Bummer ///////////////////////////////////

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    I think most of us already know well most of the content which is likely to appear in this program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christabel View Post
    I think most of us already know well most of the content which is likely to appear in this program.
    What is that supposed to mean do you know enough about LvB and therefore not interested? The more you know about something the more you realise you don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrdoc View Post
    What is that supposed to mean do you know enough about LvB and therefore not interested? The more you know about something the more you realise you don't know.
    Certainly there is much about Beethoven that is generally unknown and even skipped over in the standard biographies. For instance, Beethoven’s culinary studies in Italy and resulting dishes such as Foie Gras a Ludwig (still popular today), his physical experiments and observations that led to early steam-powered armored vehicles with cannons (proto-tanks), and suggestions of the invariance of the speed of life that would not be fully explained for almost a century.

    Amazing that he still had time to compose his music.


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    Well, I watched the first programme. It was less radical than the puff seemed to be claiming, but interesting nevertheless. There was a range of talking heads in various pretty locations round Europe - pianists, musicologists, biographers (Swafford), museum curators, conductors (Ivan Fischer) - talking enthusiastically about Louis, his childhood, his wildness, his relationship with his parents and his early growth as a composer and player. If you've read a decent biography, I doubt you'll have heard anything new, but if you're at the beginning of your Beethoven journey, it would have made a useful contribution.

    It ended on a cliff hanger: would the declaration of the Heiligen Testament come good - would he really change the face of music for ever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrdoc View Post
    What is that supposed to mean do you know enough about LvB and therefore not interested? The more you know about something the more you realise you don't know.
    I've never seen any documentary about Beethoven where I learned something new. I've read several books on the composer and there are never any surprises in such programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christabel View Post
    I've never seen any documentary about Beethoven where I learned something new. I've read several books on the composer and there are never any surprises in such programs.
    Wow you truly are an expert, I can now understand your disdain for these silly docos but you never know it may interesting but at least you won't have to waste your time reading any more books about him.

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