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Thread: SS 11.07.20 - Fibich #2

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    no wild life......first listen to this symphony with the Stilec recording on Naxos.
    'so where are the strong, who are the trusted and where is the harmony, sweet harmony?'
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    I’m listening to the Štilec/Czech National SO recording which I’m streaming in 24-bit/96 kHz “Ultra HD.” Really excited to be getting into Fibich, whom I’ve heard about for years but haven’t listened to until now!

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    I'm familar with this composer. His symphonies are unjustifiably neglected. His master piece is his third symphony but this is very good in its own way. Fibich tended to compose on feelings of infatuation. Quite evident when listening to this work.
    What is a shame is the lack of attention of his works. Very few recordings have been commissioned. The digital recordings that do exist are poor. Either poor playing (technical) or lack of interpretation/feeling of the work. The recent Naxos recording suffers from both.
    Fortunately, the third( recently released) is an absolute sensational recording and becomes a benchmark/reference version.
    Back to the second, i would recommended Sejna's 1950's performance but the sound is a boxy mono one. May not be everyone's cup of tea.
    Thankyou Saturday Symphony for giving this composer some deserved attention.
    Last edited by Joachim Raff; Jul-12-2020 at 19:53.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joachim Raff View Post
    I'm familar with this composer. His symphonies are unjustifiably neglected. His master piece is his third symphony but this is very good in its own way. Fibich tended to compose on feelings of infatuation. Quite evident when listening to this work.
    What is a shame is the lack of attention of his works. Very few recordings have been commissioned. The digital recordings that do exist are poor. Either poor playing (technical) or lack of interpretation/feeling of the work. The recent Naxos recording suffers from both.
    Fortunately, the third( recently released) is an absolute sensational recording and becomes a benchmark/reference version.
    Back to the second, i would recommended Sejna's 1950's performance but the sound is a boxy mono one. May not be everyone's cup of tea.
    Thankyou Saturday Symphony for giving this composer some deserved attention.
    Not from me. I listen more Fibich than Dvorak.
    „Es gibt drei Arten von Pianisten: jüdische Pianisten, homosexuelle Pianisten -- und schlechte Pianisten.“ V. Horowitz

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    Not much extra to add here to the positive comments already made by others
    I shall now start to explore the other symphonies
    A definite SS winner for me
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    Zdeněk Fibich? Not a household name. Wasn’t he the guy who wrote that well-known circus screamer? So I checked.

    But no, that was Julius Fučík, who wrote “Entry of the Gladiators”. Here’s a must-see video of that piece, played in its overwhelming cheesiness by another worthy recently discussed here, Andre André Rieu & His Johann Strauss Orchestra. You really don’t want to miss this…



    Anyway, on to Mr. Fibich, who seems even less known (or at least less played) than Mr. Fučík. And certainly his music is better. I really liked this symphony, which struck me as somewhat Dvorak-like, even thought it seems to have less national flavor. Fibich’s structures seem clear with an exception mentioned below, his content is quite melodic and varied, and he makes good use of rhythm, for instance in the incessant dactylic rhythm found throughout but especially the opening movement, which reminds me strongly of the primo of Beethoven’s 7th with its omnipresent Dah-dit-dit – That’s “D” in Morse Code, if anybody cares.

    Continuing the Dvorak comparison, I fiound this symphony more interesting and attention-holding than Dvorak’s earliest ones, probably due to Fibich’s better control over his forms, more parsimonious use of themes, and generally tighter editing for a tighter final product. All except the final movement, anyway, which seems less focused than any of the first three. But because Fibich was, in the final analysis, the lesser composer, I don’t find this symphony up to any of Dvorak’s last five.

    Still, a nice symphony and a good listen. Others here have praised Fibich’s 3rd, which I’m definitely going to listen to.
    Last edited by KenOC; Jul-14-2020 at 03:15.


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    Martinu on the way, time to wrap up the Fibich. I enjoyed this symphony. Fibich strikes me as a superb orchestrater. If I hadn’t read about Fibich, I’m not sure I would come up with the idea that his music is more German than Dvorak’s and Smetana’s, but I do hear it so. Because I’m very interested in the history and culture of the Austria-Hungary dual monarchy (empire), it’s great for me to have started my exploration of Fibich. I’m certainly going to continue it, as I find his music enjoyable if not to this point a huge revelation.

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