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    We're picking some works to move up from the 32nd tier of the Talk Classical community's favorite and most highly recommended works.

    This tier currently has 27 works and we're going to move 15 (or as near to 15 as possible in the event of ties) of them up to the 31st tier, while the work(s) that get the absolute fewest votes will be demoted to the 33rd tier. Of course all works will have a chance to continue climbing the next time we do whatever tier they land on.

    Each participant gets up to one +5 vote, up to two +4 votes, up to three +3 votes, up to four +2 votes, and as many +1 votes as you want. You don't have to use all of them, but you must have fewer +5 votes than +4 votes, fewer +4 votes than +3 votes, and so on.

    Voting on this thread will be open 7 days -- closing Aug 17, Korea time.

    I will tally the votes on a Google sheet.

    Have fun! Also, please be considerate! Someone, hopefully, will be influenced by our selections!

    Here are the eligible works for this thread:

    Bach: Cantata #147 "Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben" [1723]
    Bach: Christmas Oratorio, BWV 248 [1734]
    Barber: String Quartet, op. 11; including the Adagio for Strings, op. 11a [1936]
    Bartók: String Quartet #5, Sz. 102 [1934]
    Beach: Piano Quintet in F-sharp minor, op. 67 [1907]
    Beethoven: Violin Sonata #9, op. 47 "Kreutzer" [1803]
    Bruch: Scottish Fantasy, op. 46 [1880]
    Debussy: Première Rhapsodie for Clarinet and Orchestra, L 116 [1910]
    Dutilleux: Tout un monde lointain [1970]
    Fauré: Élégie for Cello and Orchestra, op. 24 [1880]
    Fauré: La Chanson d'Ève, op. 95 [1910]
    Feldman: Rothko Chapel [1971]
    Grieg: Holberg Suite, op. 40 [1884]
    Grieg: Lyric Pieces [1867-1901]
    Haas, G. F.: limited approximations [2010]
    Haydn: Mass #11 in D minor, Hob. XXII/11, "Missa in Angustiis", "Lord Nelson Mass" [1798]
    Ligeti: Lux Aeterna [1966]
    Liszt: Les Préludes, S.97 [1854]
    Mozart: Ave Verum Corpus, K. 618 [1791]
    Mozart: Piano Concerto #22 in E-flat, K. 482 [1785]
    Mozart: String Quartet #19 in C, K. 465 "Dissonance" [1785]
    Schnittke: Concerto for Piano and Strings [1979]
    Schoenberg: Piano Concerto, op. 42 [1942]
    Schumann: Frauenliebe und -leben (A Woman’s Love and Life), op. 42 [1830]
    Sibelius: Symphony #3 in C, op. 52 [1907]
    Stockhausen: Gruppen [1957]
    Webern: Movements (5) for String Quartet, op. 5 [1909]
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    Grieg: Holberg Suite, op. 40 [1884]

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    Bach: Cantata #147 "Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben" [1723]
    Sibelius: Symphony #3 in C, op. 52 [1907]

    3
    Dutilleux: Tout un monde lointain [1970]
    Grieg: Lyric Pieces [1867-1901]
    Liszt: Les Préludes, S.97 [1854]

    2
    Bach: Christmas Oratorio, BWV 248 [1734]
    Barber: String Quartet, op. 11; including the Adagio for Strings, op. 11a [1936]
    Bruch: Scottish Fantasy, op. 46 [1880]
    Mozart: Piano Concerto #22 in E-flat, K. 482 [1785]

    1
    Beach: Piano Quintet in F-sharp minor, op. 67 [1907]
    Debussy: Première Rhapsodie for Clarinet and Orchestra, L 116 [1910]
    Fauré: Élégie for Cello and Orchestra, op. 24 [1880]
    Fauré: La Chanson d'Ève, op. 95 [1910]
    Ligeti: Lux Aeterna [1966]
    Mozart: Ave Verum Corpus, K. 618 [1791]
    Mozart: String Quartet #19 in C, K. 465 "Dissonance" [1785]
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    5:
    Bach: Cantata #147 "Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben" [1723]

    4:
    Bach: Christmas Oratorio, BWV 248 [1734]
    Barber: String Quartet, op. 11; including the Adagio for Strings, op. 11a [1936]

    3:
    Beach: Piano Quintet in F-sharp minor, op. 67 [1907]
    Dutilleux: Tout un monde lointain [1970]
    Haydn: Mass #11 in D minor, Hob. XXII/11, "Missa in Angustiis", "Lord Nelson Mass" [1798]

    2:
    Mozart: Piano Concerto #22 in E-flat, K. 482 [1785]
    Mozart: String Quartet #19 in C, K. 465 "Dissonance" [1785]
    Schnittke: Concerto for Piano and Strings [1979]
    Sibelius: Symphony #3 in C, op. 52 [1907]

    1:
    Bartók: String Quartet #5, Sz. 102 [1934]
    Beethoven: Violin Sonata #9, op. 47 "Kreutzer" [1803]
    Debussy: Première Rhapsodie for Clarinet and Orchestra, L 116 [1910]
    Mozart: Ave Verum Corpus, K. 618 [1791]
    Webern: Movements (5) for String Quartet, op. 5 [1909]

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    +5
    Bach: Christmas Oratorio, BWV 248 [1734]

    +4
    Ligeti: Lux Aeterna [1966]
    Grieg: Lyric Pieces [1867-1901]

    +3
    Dutilleux: Tout un monde lointain [1970]
    Sibelius: Symphony #3 in C, op. 52 [1907]
    Grieg: Holberg Suite, op. 40 [1884]

    +2
    Bartók: String Quartet #5, Sz. 102 [1934]
    Beach: Piano Quintet in F-sharp minor, op. 67 [1907]
    Beethoven: Violin Sonata #9, op. 47 "Kreutzer" [1803]
    Haas, G. F.: limited approximations [2010]

    +1
    Debussy: Première Rhapsodie for Clarinet and Orchestra, L 116 [1910]
    Stockhausen: Gruppen [1957]
    Webern: Movements (5) for String Quartet, op. 5 [1909]
    Schoenberg: Piano Concerto, op. 42 [1942]
    Mozart: String Quartet #19 in C, K. 465 "Dissonance" [1785]
    Liszt: Les Préludes, S.97 [1854]
    Schnittke: Concerto for Piano and Strings [1979]

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    Webern: Movements (5) for String Quartet, op. 5

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    Dutilleux: Tout on monde lontain
    Schoenberg: Piano Concerto, op. 42

    +3
    Bartok: String Quartet No. 5, Sz. 102
    Bruch: Scottish Fantasy, op. 46
    Feldman: Rothko Chapel

    +2
    Faure: Elegie for Cello and Orchestra, op. 24
    Haas, G.F.: limited approximations
    Schnittke: Concerto for Piano and Strings
    Stockhausen: Gruppen

    +1
    Barber: String Quartet, op. 11; including the Adagio for Strings, op. 11a
    Beach: Piano Quintet in F sharp minor, op. 67
    Debussy: Premiere Rhapsodie for Clarinet and Orchestra, L 116
    Ligeti: Lux Aeterna
    Liszt: Les Preludes, S.97
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    +5
    Grieg: Lyric Pieces [1867-1901]

    +4
    Bach: Cantata #147 "Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben" [1723]
    Bach: Christmas Oratorio, BWV 248 [1734]

    +3
    Grieg: Holberg Suite, op. 40 [1884]
    Mozart: String Quartet #19 in C, K. 465 "Dissonance" [1785]
    Mozart: Ave Verum Corpus, K. 618 [1791]

    +2
    Mozart: Piano Concerto #22 in E-flat, K. 482 [1785]
    Barber: String Quartet, op. 11; including the Adagio for Strings, op. 11a [1936]
    Beethoven: Violin Sonata #9, op. 47 "Kreutzer" [1803]
    Ligeti: Lux Aeterna [1966]

    +1
    Sibelius: Symphony #3 in C, op. 52 [1907]
    Stockhausen: Gruppen [1957]
    Webern: Movements (5) for String Quartet, op. 5 [1909]

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    +5
    Bach: Cantata #147 "Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben" [1723]

    +4
    Haydn: Mass #11 in D minor, Hob. XXII/11, "Missa in Angustiis", "Lord Nelson Mass" [1798]
    Mozart: Ave Verum Corpus, K. 618 [1791]

    +3
    Bartók: String Quartet #5, Sz. 102 [1934]
    Beach: Piano Quintet in F-sharp minor, op. 67 [1907]
    Sibelius: Symphony #3 in C, op. 52 [1907]

    +2
    Grieg: Holberg Suite, op. 40 [1884]
    Barber: String Quartet, op. 11; including the Adagio for Strings, op. 11a [1936]
    Dutilleux: Tout un monde lointain [1970]
    Fauré: La Chanson d'Ève, op. 95 [1910]

    +1
    Fauré: Élégie for Cello and Orchestra, op. 24 [1880]
    Grieg: Lyric Pieces [1867-1901]
    Stockhausen: Gruppen [1957]
    Bach: Christmas Oratorio, BWV 248 [1734]
    Mozart: Piano Concerto #22 in E-flat, K. 482 [1785]
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    Bach: Cantata #147 "Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben" [1723]

    +4
    Beethoven: Violin Sonata #9, op. 47 "Kreutzer" [1803]
    Mozart: String Quartet #19 in C, K. 465 "Dissonance" [1785]

    +3
    Grieg: Holberg Suite, op. 40 [1884]
    Grieg: Lyric Pieces [1867-1901]
    Mozart: Piano Concerto #22 in E-flat, K. 482 [1785]

    +2
    Barber: String Quartet, op. 11; including the Adagio for Strings, op. 11a [1936]
    Ligeti: Lux Aeterna [1966]
    Liszt: Les Préludes, S.97 [1854]
    Sibelius: Symphony #3 in C, op. 52 [1907]

    +1
    Bach: Christmas Oratorio, BWV 248 [1734]
    Haas, G. F.: limited approximations [2010]
    Haydn: Mass #11 in D minor, Hob. XXII/11, "Missa in Angustiis", "Lord Nelson Mass" [1798]
    Mozart: Ave Verum Corpus, K. 618 [1791]
    Schnittke: Concerto for Piano and Strings [1979]
    Webern: Movements (5) for String Quartet, op. 5 [1909]
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    +5
    Bach: Christmas Oratorio, BWV 248 [1734]

    +4
    Mozart: Piano Concerto #22 in E-flat, K. 482 [1785]
    Sibelius: Symphony #3 in C, op. 52 [1907]

    +3
    Bartók: String Quartet #5, Sz. 102 [1934]
    Beethoven: Violin Sonata #9, op. 47 "Kreutzer" [1803]
    Mozart String Quartet #19 in C, K. 465 "Dissonance" [1785]

    +2
    Bach: Cantata #147 "Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben" [1723]
    Fauré: Élégie for Cello and Orchestra, op. 24 [1880]
    Haydn: Mass #11 in D minor, Hob. XXII/11, "Missa in Angustiis", "Lord Nelson Mass" [1798]
    Ligeti: Lux Aeterna [1966]

    +1
    Barber: String Quartet, op. 11; including the Adagio for Strings, op. 11a [1936]
    Grieg: Holberg Suite, op. 40 [1884]
    Mozart: Ave Verum Corpus, K. 618 [1791]
    Schnittke: Concerto for Piano and Strings [1979]
    Schoenberg: Piano Concerto, op. 42 [1942]

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    Bartók: String Quartet #5, Sz. 102 [1934]

    +4
    Ligeti: Lux Aeterna [1966]
    Schoenberg: Piano Concerto, op. 42 [1942]

    +3
    Barber: String Quartet, op. 11; including the Adagio for Strings, op. 11a [1936]
    Feldman: Rothko Chapel [1971]
    Haas, G. F.: limited approximations [2010]

    +2
    Schnittke: Concerto for Piano and Strings [1979]
    Sibelius: Symphony #3 in C, op. 52 [1907]
    Stockhausen: Gruppen [1957]
    Webern: Movements (5) for String Quartet, op. 5 [1909]

    +1
    Debussy: Première Rhapsodie for Clarinet and Orchestra, L 116 [1910]
    Dutilleux: Tout un monde lointain [1970]
    Fauré: La Chanson d'Ève, op. 95 [1910]
    Grieg: Lyric Pieces [1867-1901]
    Liszt: Les Préludes, S.97 [1854]

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    Fauré: La Chanson d'Ève, op. 95 [1910]

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    Beach: Piano Quintet in F-sharp minor, op. 67 [1907]
    Debussy: Première Rhapsodie for Clarinet and Orchestra, L 116 [1910]

    3
    Bartók: String Quartet #5, Sz. 102 [1934]
    Mozart: Ave Verum Corpus, K. 618 [1791]
    Schumann: Frauenliebe und -leben (A Woman’s Love and Life), op. 42 [1830]

    2
    Bach: Cantata #147 "Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben" [1723]
    Dutilleux: Tout un monde lointain [1970]
    Fauré: Élégie for Cello and Orchestra, op. 24 [1880]
    Mozart: String Quartet #19 in C, K. 465 "Dissonance" [1785]

    1
    Bach: Christmas Oratorio, BWV 248 [1734]
    Barber: String Quartet, op. 11; including the Adagio for Strings, op. 11a [1936]
    Haas, G. F.: limited approximations [2010]
    Haydn: Mass #11 in D minor, Hob. XXII/11, "Missa in Angustiis", "Lord Nelson Mass" [1798]
    Sibelius: Symphony #3 in C, op. 52 [1907]

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    Beethoven: Violin Sonata #9, op. 47 "Kreutzer" [1803]

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    Fauré: Élégie for Cello and Orchestra, op. 24 [1880]
    Haydn: Mass #11 in D minor, Hob. XXII/11, "Missa in Angustiis", "Lord Nelson Mass" [1798]

    +3

    Bruch: Scottish Fantasy, op. 46 [1880]
    Grieg: Lyric Pieces [1867-1901]
    Sibelius: Symphony #3 in C, op. 52 [1907]

    +2

    Bach: Cantata #147 "Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben" [1723]
    Debussy: Première Rhapsodie for Clarinet and Orchestra, L 116 [1910]
    Dutilleux: Tout un monde lointain [1970]
    Schumann: Frauenliebe und -leben (A Woman’s Love and Life), op. 42 [1830]

    +1

    Bartók: String Quartet #5, Sz. 102 [1934]
    Beach: Piano Quintet in F-sharp minor, op. 67 [1907]
    Schoenberg: Piano Concerto, op. 42 [1942]
    Stockhausen: Gruppen [1957]
    Webern: Movements (5) for String Quartet, op. 5 [1909]

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    +5
    Schoenberg: Piano Concerto, op. 42 [1942]

    +4
    Ligeti: Lux Aeterna [1966]
    Stockhausen: Gruppen [1957]

    +3
    Haas, G. F.: limited approximations [2010]
    Liszt: Les Préludes, S.97 [1854]
    Sibelius: Symphony #3 in C, op. 52 [1907]

    +2
    Bach: Cantata #147 "Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben" [1723]
    Bartók: String Quartet #5, Sz. 102 [1934]
    Feldman: Rothko Chapel [1971]
    Mozart: String Quartet #19 in C, K. 465 "Dissonance" [1785]

    +1
    Bach: Christmas Oratorio, BWV 248 [1734]
    Beach: Piano Quintet in F-sharp minor, op. 67 [1907]
    Dutilleux: Tout un monde lointain [1970]
    Grieg: Holberg Suite, op. 40 [1884]
    Mozart: Piano Concerto #22 in E-flat, K. 482 [1785]
    Webern: Movements (5) for String Quartet, op. 5 [1909]

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    Feldman: Rothko Chapel [1971]

    +4
    Barber: String Quartet, op. 11; including the Adagio for Strings, op. 11a [1936]
    Ligeti: Lux Aeterna [1966]

    +3
    Beethoven: Violin Sonata #9, op. 47 "Kreutzer" [1803]
    Grieg: Lyric Pieces [1867-1901]
    Haas, G. F.: limited approximations [2010]

    +2
    Bruch: Scottish Fantasy, op. 46 [1880]
    Mozart: String Quartet #19 in C, K. 465 "Dissonance" [1785]
    Stockhausen: Gruppen [1957]
    Schumann: Frauenliebe und -leben (A Woman’s Love and Life), op. 42 [1830]

    +1
    Dutilleux: Tout un monde lointain [1970]
    Fauré: La Chanson d'Ève, op. 95 [1910]
    Haydn: Mass #11 in D minor, Hob. XXII/11, "Missa in Angustiis", "Lord Nelson Mass" [1798]
    Mozart: Piano Concerto #22 in E-flat, K. 482 [1785]
    Schoenberg: Piano Concerto, op. 42 [1942]
    Webern: Movements (5) for String Quartet, op. 5 [1909]
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    Beethoven: Violin Sonata #9, op. 47 "Kreutzer" [1803]

    +4
    Bach: Cantata #147 "Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben" [1723]
    Sibelius: Symphony #3 in C, op. 52 [1907]

    +3
    Bach: Christmas Oratorio, BWV 248 [1734]
    Barber: String Quartet, op. 11; including the Adagio for Strings, op. 11a [1936]
    Fauré: Élégie for Cello and Orchestra, op. 24 [1880]

    +2
    Bartók: String Quartet #5, Sz. 102 [1934]
    Beach: Piano Quintet in F-sharp minor, op. 67 [1907]
    Mozart: String Quartet #19 in C, K. 465 "Dissonance" [1785]
    Schnittke: Concerto for Piano and Strings [1979]

    +1
    Bruch: Scottish Fantasy, op. 46 [1880]
    Grieg: Lyric Pieces [1867-1901]
    Ligeti: Lux Aeterna [1966]
    Liszt: Les Préludes, S.97 [1854]
    Mozart: Ave Verum Corpus, K. 618 [1791]
    Mozart: Piano Concerto #22 in E-flat, K. 482 [1785]
    Webern: Movements (5) for String Quartet, op. 5 [1909]

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