Thread: Identity the film from the production stills

Originally Posted by Christabel

The film "Rabbit Proof Fence" makes no equivocation; white people are very very bad people.

Now, I am beginning to doubt whether you have ever seen the whole movie...

EDIT: Let's forget about the obvious examples of good white people shown in "Rabbit-Proof Fence" that I have provided in my post and go back for a while to the previously discussed film "Life Is Beautiful" (as we both seem to agree that this is a wonderful film). At which point does that film give us a message saying that probably not all Germans were bad people? If there is no such message, would you classify "Life is beautiful" as "straight propaganda and brainwashing"?

Originally Posted by Christabel

Nobody was treated worse in the history of the world than the Jews . . . .

I'll probably regret weighing in, but what the hell.

No debate that the Jews have been treated poorly. The Holocaust is one of the worst genocides in world history, if you're looking at raw numbers of deaths. Around 2/3 of the Jewish population of Europe, or around 6 million killed. The other 3 million terrorized. And, of course, it's not the first time the jews were chased from their homes. I'm thinking back to Imperial Russia, and the pogroms instituted by the Tzar, half a century before the Holocaust.

I just thought I'd speak up regarding the unknown number of Africans kidnapped from their continent and used as slaves. THAT's the first thing that came to mind. The deaths, the rapes, the lynchings, the floggings, the families ripped apart.

We'll never really have an accurate death toll resulting in the slave trade, but some estimates have calculated that 60 million deaths resulted from white Christian imperialism. The transatlantic slave trade took place across the Atlantic Ocean from the 15th through the 19th century. That number is based on historical estimates of how many people may have died in capture, during the voyage at sea, and due to disease, starvation and back breaking labor in the New World. But what is certain is that the slave trade was a genocide against the African people.

The genocide of Native Americans also comes to mind - Again, there is no accurate count, but it's likely that 12 million Indigenous people died in what is today the United States between 1492 and 1900.

And, of course, the genocide of indigenous peoples is by no means exclusive to the United States: Paraguay, Guatemala, Brazil, Australia, Canada, and Mexico, to name a few.



I did a benefit condensed performance of a show at a jewish retirement home in Los Angeles once - We hung out for a couple hours before AND after our performance . . . one of the retirees recounted his story, punctuating it by showing us the number that had been tattooed on his arm by the German military.

Originally Posted by pianozach

I'll probably regret weighing in, but what the hell.

No debate that the Jews have been treated poorly. The Holocaust is one of the worst genocides in world history, if you're looking at raw numbers of deaths. Around 2/3 of the Jewish population of Europe, or around 6 million killed. The other 3 million terrorized. And, of course, it's not the first time the jews were chased from their homes. I'm thinking back to Imperial Russia, and the pogroms instituted by the Tzar, half a century before the Holocaust.

I just thought I'd speak up regarding the unknown number of Africans kidnapped from their continent and used as slaves. THAT's the first thing that came to mind. The deaths, the rapes, the lynchings, the floggings, the families ripped apart.

We'll never really have an accurate death toll resulting in the slave trade, but some estimates have calculated that 60 million deaths resulted from white Christian imperialism. The transatlantic slave trade took place across the Atlantic Ocean from the 15th through the 19th century. That number is based on historical estimates of how many people may have died in capture, during the voyage at sea, and due to disease, starvation and back breaking labor in the New World. But what is certain is that the slave trade was a genocide against the African people.

The genocide of Native Americans also comes to mind - Again, there is no accurate count, but it's likely that 12 million Indigenous people died in what is today the United States between 1492 and 1900.

And, of course, the genocide of indigenous peoples is by no means exclusive to the United States: Paraguay, Guatemala, Brazil, Australia, Canada, and Mexico, to name a few.



I did a benefit condensed performance of a show at a jewish retirement home in Los Angeles once - We hung out for a couple hours before AND after our performance . . . one of the retirees recounted his story, punctuating it by showing us the number that had been tattooed on his arm by the German military.

All of this is appalling, yes. And white British people transported to Australia in the late 18th century because they stole a loaf of bread!! That shocking trip across the seas - many died of seasickness, of course, and other diseases. They were summarily flogged for disobedience when they got here; we've been to one of the outposts in Pt. Macquarie to witness the brutality through records of the time - and an exhibition of barbarous implements of torture. But they made a life for themselves when they earned their freedom and modern Australia is the result of this.

The Jews have progressed in life, never trading on victimhood or grievance for a single minute. It's a lesson everybody could learn. If there's a connection in your comments to "Rabbit Proof Fence" I'm sure I don't know what it is. The Australian government has poured tens of BILLIONS of dollars into Aboriginal welfare; but they must help themselves. You can lead the horse to water.

And private schools in Sydney are offering scholarships to young indigenous people for high school (don't tell me they're 'stolen'!!??) and it gladdens the heart to see the fantastic strides these students make and what successful endeavours they go onto. One of Australia's most important aboriginal leaders - a man named Noel Pearson, who has a combined Arts and Law degree (he's a very smart fellow) - has told his people to "accept personal responsibility; to fix their own problems and stop sitting down and complaining about their lot in life". He was the man who coined the expression, relating to racism and get-out-clauses as "the bigotry of low expectations". And if you want to remove aboriginal kids from violence and dysfunction you are howled down by protests of "stolen generation" - of which Philip Noyce's one-sided film provided the ammunition.

Yes, it's ironic isn't it; a cultural catch-cry keeps disadvantaged kids in their places, effectively stealing their futures.

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I stopped a movie yesterday about here. I did not draw those white lines in paint. not a full frame.