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    Hey audiophiles, what would be the best solution for a pc based desktop system? I've been using a pair of pretty high end studio monitors (Amphion One15, hooked to PC, dac/pre-amp, amp) for past few years. But since I don't do any music production, I wonder if i'm missing the point of using monitors and could get better listening experience from different speakers. I listen to 50% orchestra/opera 50% solo/chamber music

    ps: I used headphones before and tried some of the best on the market. Love the details I can get from them but it hurts my ears from long term use so I'm sticking to speakers for now. Also can only do smaller ones that could fit on desktop
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrravioli View Post
    Hey audiophiles, what would be the best solution for a pc based desktop system? I've been using a pair of pretty high end studio monitors (Amphion One15, hooked to PC, dac/pre-amp, amp) for past few years. But since I don't do any music production, I wonder if i'm missing the point of using monitors and could get better listening experience from different speakers. I listen to 50% orchestra/opera 50% solo/chamber music

    ps: I used headphones before and tried some of the best on the market. Love the details I can get from them but it hurts my ears from long term use so I'm sticking to speakers for now. Also can only do smaller ones that could fit on desktop
    What don't you like about the current speakers?

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    Nothing i specifically dislike, maybe too 'lean' of a sound? i read that studio monitors are specifically designed for music production than listening purpose. I never used high end speakers before and bought a pair studio monitors because I believed 'high fidelity means everything sounds like how it sounds in the studio', but I'm rethinking about this now
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrravioli View Post
    Hey audiophiles, what would be the best solution for a pc based desktop system? I've been using a pair of pretty high end studio monitors (Amphion One15, hooked to PC, dac/pre-amp, amp) for past few years. But since I don't do any music production, I wonder if i'm missing the point of using monitors and could get better listening experience from different speakers. I listen to 50% orchestra/opera 50% solo/chamber music
    Monitors are designed for nearfield, maybe that is the issue. Do you sit right at the desk when you listen?

    ps: I used headphones before and tried some of the best on the market. Love the details I can get from them but it hurts my ears from long term use so I'm sticking to speakers for now. Also can only do smaller ones that could fit on desktop
    Which model did you have? Stax?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eljr View Post
    Monitors are designed for nearfield, maybe that is the issue. Do you sit right at the desk when you listen?
    yes i sit right at the desk, maybe 1m / 3ft away from it. i guess this is also how monitors supposed to be used?

    Quote Originally Posted by eljr View Post
    Which model did you have? Stax?
    no not that level. i used hd800s (tried a bunch others within that range but liked it the best for classical), before moving to speakers. i like the comfort for hour-long listening without fatigue, but i could def hear a lot more with headphones
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrravioli View Post
    yes i sit right at the desk, maybe 1m / 3ft away from it. i guess this is also how monitors supposed to be used?



    no not that level. i used hd800s (tried a bunch others within that range but liked it the best for classical), before moving to speakers. i like the comfort for hour-long listening without fatigue, but i could def hear a lot more with headphones
    The problem with going with speakers designed for audio listening, as opposed to studio monitors, is that home audio speakers are designed for the output of their drivers to sum further away from the speakers. Sitting that close, the horizontal and/or vertical response will be way off.

    As much as I am in the camp of, studio monitors do not make good home audio speakers, with your near field listening, they are probably the best bet.

    Studio monitors are designed for near field, and they are also designed to have a decently flat frequency response off axis. But, the same things that make them good at their job, make them bad for home audio.

    For example, studio monitors tend to have no real soundstage or imaging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Moon View Post
    For example, studio monitors tend to have no real soundstage or imaging.
    Ah thanks, that pretty sums up what I'm looking for. I also use a soundbar for my TV system and sometimes watch video concerts with it. Although my studio monitors clearly output a 'cleaner' sound, I find myself preferring the soundbar in many cases, especially large scale orchestral music where with monitors the orchestra sounds without a depth like in real life. It really drives me nut, as that's what I listen to the most, and the soundbar costs less than one single monitor
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    Mostly Sennheiser HD660S connected to my PC because my wife gets angry when I listen too loud on my other systems.

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    I listen to music from my PC with Grado SR225 headphones. I am hesitating whether to use an amplifier to the PC output or a DAC with amplifier. is it worth it? any recommendations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicente View Post
    I listen to music from my PC with Grado SR225 headphones. I am hesitating whether to use an amplifier to the PC output or a DAC with amplifier. is it worth it? any recommendations?

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    I've only just come to Grado this year (SR225X). At the moment, my main listening is done from my MacBook Pro 2013 model. I listen to my iTunes library (ripped CDs and lossless downloads) via Audirvana software, Beyerdynamic A 20 headphone amplifier and a Cambridge Audio DacMagic 100 digital to analogue converter.

    While I was oversea on holiday, I packed the equipment away and when I returned I couldn't find one of the cables, so plugged the Grado SR225X straight into the MaBook. I was shocked to hear how inferior it sounded. It stayed like that until I found the cable the following week, and when I set the amp and DAC back up - what a difference!

    Through a lot of experience and wasted money, I'm quite sceptical about Hi-Fi upgrades, but I would solidly recommend a headphone amp.

    For a while, I was just running the amp and headphones. Very good sound performance.

    I decided to get a DAC. The improvement was huge. I was hoping for a perceptible improvement, but this took the sound quality to another level. The DacMagic 100 is the real star, and relatively inexpensive too. So I would also highly recommend a DAC!

    YMMV

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    Got my new Marantz CD player hooked up. I think I swallowed half a pound of dust in the process but at least I got my audio cabinet cleaned up a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrravioli View Post
    yes i sit right at the desk, maybe 1m / 3ft away from it. i guess this is also how monitors supposed to be used?
    Yes, studio monitors are designed for near-field listening, like an over-sized pair of headphones you sit between.

    As Simon Moon implies, the room needs to be a component of your listening system if you're talking "audiophile." That means at least 500 sf and careful speaker placement.

    If you're stuck sitting at your computer however studio monitors is EXACTLY what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    Got my new Marantz CD player hooked up. I think I swallowed half a pound of dust in the process but at least I got my audio cabinet cleaned up a bit.
    Hows it sounding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBombassolo View Post
    Mostly Sennheiser HD660S connected to my PC because my wife gets angry when I listen too loud on my other systems.
    Time to upgrade your wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoFlutesOneTrumpet View Post
    Time to upgrade your wife.
    I hear the newer models have much higher compliance.

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