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    Default What's the buzz on "Dune"?

    A new version seems to be coming up. This story has (in my opinion) been badly served in earlier versions. Maybe this one will be better? Does anybody know? Here's a recently posted and pretty substantial trailer.



    Obligatory musical reference: Sounds like the soundtrack is based on Pink Floyd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    A new version seems to be coming up. This story has (in my opinion) been badly served in earlier versions. Maybe this one will be better? Does anybody know? Here's a recently posted and pretty substantial trailer.



    Obligatory musical reference: Sounds like the soundtrack is based on Pink Floyd.
    The director Denis Villeneuve is supposed have fallen in love with Dune in his teens and wants to make a faithful adaptation to the novel in two installments. People are banking on the fact that he did such a great job with Blade Runner 2049 that he won’t screw up with Dune.

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    I don't have my hopes up for this version. This trailer doesn't really have me excited, maybe because I don't like the casting choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    I don't have my hopes up for this version. This trailer doesn't really have me excited, maybe because I don't like the casting choices.
    I’m with you on the casting choices, except for Timothee Chalamet who looks young enough to be Paul Atreides and Charlotte Rampling, who looks old enough for Gaius Helen Mohian. I am not so sure about the rest, especially changing the gender of Liet Keynes.

    I liked most of the casting in the Lynch film (or got used to them?)

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    Here’s a rabid fan’s take on the trailer


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    There are now several fan reaction videos on the Internet. All that I've seen are positive. It seems that the movie will only be the first half of the novel (as MAS noted), to be be completed if this one is financially successful enough.
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    I only have expectation based on the director's prevous work and Lynch's take on the books (having not read the books.)

    It looks like expectation might be fulfilled, with some scenes resembling both Blade Runner 2049 and Arrival. If it's up to the same standard as Arrival, I'll be happy.

    That is Pink Floyd on the temp track - but the score will be by Hans Zimmer, so it seems unlikely that it will be based on Floyd...unless anyone else knows otherwise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAS View Post
    I’m with you on the casting choices, except for Timothee Chalamet who looks young enough to be Paul Atreides and Charlotte Rampling, who looks old enough for Gaius Helen Mohian. I am not so sure about the rest, especially changing the gender of Liet Keynes.

    I liked most of the casting in the Lynch film (or got used to them?)
    I liked Chalamet in Call me By Your Name. But not in Little Women, and the way he presented in the last Oscars. He seems very immodest in his demeanor to me, maybe because of his success and attention as a heart throb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    A new version seems to be coming up. This story has (in my opinion) been badly served in earlier versions. Maybe this one will be better? Does anybody know? Here's a recently posted and pretty substantial trailer.



    Obligatory musical reference: Sounds like the soundtrack is based on Pink Floyd.
    Visually it looks awesome.

    I like the looks of many of the characters, especially Paul and Chani . . . . they are both very similar to how I pictured them when I first read the first book in the 70s. Jessica, not so much.

    Often trailers will have music attached that isn't necessarily in the finished film. But the mood and arrangement of the PF song Eclipse works well with the trailer.

    We'll see though. When I read the book, prior to any filmed version being released, one thing that struck me was how difficult it would be to make a film version, as so much of the narrative was relaying how people felt and what they were thinking.

    I remember being so very disappointed with the 1984 adaptation, especially the ending, which was seemingly written by someone who completely missed the point of the original novel, or perhaps hadn't read it at all.

    I haven't bothered to watch that version since 1984, and I had to look to Wikipedia to determine that the score I don't remember at all was by Toto and Brian Eno.

    I do recall that the rough cut was four hours long, and the first edit was three hours long, which pissed off the financiers of the film, who expected a two hour long film. Frankly, a novel of this depth cannot seriously be captured in 120 minutes. Or even 4 hours.

    So, we'll see . . .

    Maybe I should simply reread the book. That might be more satisfying.

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    Producer Raffaella di Laurentiis debunks the rumor that there exists a four hour cut of David Lynch’s version of Dune in the introduction to the deleted scenes on the Blu-ray.

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    ^ I think this video was included in my Blue Ray version as an extra. The deleted scenes look familiar. That scene where Paul offers his life to Thufir to strike was good stuff! I'm surprised they'd take that scene out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAS View Post
    Producer Raffaella di Laurentiis debunks the rumor that there exists a four hour cut of David Lynch’s version of Dune in the introduction to the deleted scenes on the Blu-ray.

    The "four hour" version never actually existed as "a cut". That was how much useable raw footage was available.

    Director Lynch later disowned the whole film, with some versions released with the director listed as Alan Smithee.

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    I read just the first book of Dune, never read the sequels. Then I played the 2 computers games Dune I and Dune II, which started the whole genre of real-time strategies like Command and Conquer. And I saw the Lynch movie and the Children of Dune miniseries.
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0287839/
    it had a pretty good sountrack

    so I am certainly not going to miss the new Dune and Baron Harkonnen on hovering on his suspensors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacck View Post
    I read just the first book of Dune, never read the sequels. Then I played the 2 computers games Dune I and Dune II, which started the whole genre of real-time strategies like Command and Conquer. And I saw the Lynch movie and the Children of Dune miniseries.
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0287839/
    it had a pretty good sountrack

    so I am certainly not going to miss the new Dune and Baron Harkonnen on hovering on his suspensors
    I also read Dune Messiah, the immediate sequel to the first novel, and felt I had enough and stopped. I watched the first episode of the miniseries and didn't want to continue. I'm just excited to see the sandworms in this remake. I read somewhere they were the real stars of the first movie, and I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    I also read Dune Messiah, the immediate sequel to the first novel, and felt I had enough and stopped. I watched the first episode of the miniseries and didn't want to continue. I'm just excited to see the sandworms in this remake. I read somewhere they were the real stars of the first movie, and I agree.
    I’m re-reading Dune right now. It’s one of my favorite scifi book series, and I’m preparing for the new movie. I hope it’s a big hit, so the second movie gets the go ahead.

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