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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewWeflen View Post
    Yeah, I know there are a fair number of licensed collections, but the three I bought were recorded just for Brilliant. They must have great talent scouts to find lesser known talents to record digitally.
    The Tchaikovsky suites are definitely taken from earlier Capriccio recordings (1987). Haven't checked the others, but I knew Marriner recorded for Capriccio with this orchestra, and a quick search confirmed it:
    http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/...lbum_id=755380
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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Rock View Post
    The Tchaikovsky suites are definitely taken from earlier Capriccio recordings (1987). Haven't checked the others, but I knew Marriner recorded for Capriccio with this orchestra, and a quick search confirmed it:
    http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/...lbum_id=755380
    Yep, you're right about the Tchaikovsky. But the other two do say they are copyright Brilliant Classics.

    The Tchaikovsky is a great recording.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegro Con Brio View Post
    Possibly somewhat off-topic question - does anyone know of a place where one could possibly download Gulda’s complete set of Beethoven sonatas?



    I searched Brilliant’s website for it and came up blank. Why is that? No other outlet seems to have it available for download, YouTube doesn’t carry any, and I don’t buy CDs. Any leads? I’m really curious to hear these interpretations.
    Just buy the CDs and rip it. Sell them on ebay when you're done with them if you really don't want it. Someone else posted a link to Amazon for a reasonable price.

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    I have to say, their Bach was what got me into Bach, so full marks for that, and I'd re-recommend it in a heart-beat in consequence.

    But their use of Leusink for the cantatas was an appalling bad judgment, and I've spent a lot of money since rectifying the entire collection. In short, it was a good first step, but if that's all your Bach experience was, you'd be missing out on a lot.

    I found their Vivaldi similar.

    If you want bar-for-buck, they can't be beat (pun intended!). And they will thus provide an entreé into vast worlds of music for next-to-nothing. And for that, they deserve high praise. But if you're once taken by the composer whose "all" you've just purchased, understand that you then need to re-purchase pretty much everything, bit by premium bit, to get a properly rounded view of that composer's works.
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    Yes I have the BC Mozart set.

    wouldnt bother with any other

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    Their Beethoven set with Blomstedt, Brendel and the Suske Quartet is very good.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlaySalieri View Post
    Yes I have the BC Mozart set.

    wouldnt bother with any other
    Their Mozart is actually very good (better than their Bach, for example). But I'd still want to replace fairly large chunks of it with better recordings. Just as one example, Le Nozze di Figaro: BC has Kuijken and La Petite Bande. I'd have to buy René Jacobs and Concerto Köln before thinking I knew anything much about that opera. And Jacobs isn't even the best recording (not sure entirely what is: I now have four: and I suspect that's as nothing for a real Mozart afficionado!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbsolutelyBaching View Post
    Their Mozart is actually very good (better than their Bach, for example). But I'd still want to replace fairly large chunks of it with better recordings. Just as one example, Le Nozze di Figaro: BC has Kuijken and La Petite Bande. I'd have to buy René Jacobs and Concerto Köln before thinking I knew anything much about that opera. And Jacobs isn't even the best recording (not sure entirely what is: I now have four: and I suspect that's as nothing for a real Mozart afficionado!).
    I have quite a few recordings of Figaro and Jacobs comes out at the top.

    I’ve also got the Brilliant Classics complete which has good performances but probably not the best. But good for completeness.
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    They have some excellent baroque releases that they commission themselves from young groups. it's often rare composers and repertoire as well. Some of their releases are not quite up to it but most are amazing. This is a wonderful cd
    https://www.brilliantclassics.com/ar...n-venice-1600/
    And their YouTube channel is amazing

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    It's all quite logical. Since the major label licenses dried up, this label, like Naxos, mainly survives by releasing relatively unknown music by relatively unknown artists. The major labels cover the well known repertoire by well known artists. so the Brilliant labels fill gaps. Of course there are plenty of good musicians around. I do think that the Brilliant artists don't get any serious compensation for their hard work, let alone a part of the revenue. This is the other side of low priced original releases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NLAdriaan View Post
    It's all quite logical. Since the major label licenses dried up, this label, like Naxos, mainly survives by releasing relatively unknown music by relatively unknown artists. The major labels cover the well known repertoire by well known artists. so the Brilliant labels fill gaps. Of course there are plenty of good musicians around. I do think that the Brilliant artists don't get any serious compensation for their hard work, let alone a part of the revenue. This is the other side of low priced original releases.
    I heard Jando got £1000 per disc flat for his Beethoven sonatas for Naxos. If he had worked on royalties he would have been a rich man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    I heard Jando got £1000 per disc flat for his Beethoven sonatas for Naxos. If he had worked on royalties he would have been a rich man!
    Absolutely, but at such low prices, Naxos, Brilliant and the likes don't make a lot of money themselves too. And since streaming became popular, the market for any record label or artist is almost ruined. No solution in sight, it could be a nice subject for a Wagner opera

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Rock View Post
    They often use bigger label's recordings that have run their course there, and that they (I assume) can get cheap. Combined with relatively high sales for the Brilliant boxes, they can keep the price low.

    Here is another stunning deal, one of the best sets of complete Shostakovich symphonies:

    Yes this one is amazing!

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    This is a nice set:




    I got it years ago, and I'm glad I did as it is now expensive. I also can't believe how hard it is to get these on CD considering these are from Decca. The releases with just a couple of concerti are even expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    Just buy the CDs and rip it. Sell them on ebay when you're done with them if you really don't want it. Someone else posted a link to Amazon for a reasonable price.
    Amazon Canada has this on offer for cheapest $110 (used) and new at $210 !!

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