But is it right or wrong? should be our only consideration.
Schenker, for example, saw an analogy between the domination of the tonic over the other tones and the domination of the white race over the others...but it does not mean that a hierarchical relationship is not the best way to describe tonal structure.
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There is no analogy. The tones are subject in varying degrees to the 1st scale degree, in that the triads built upon them are understood in relation to the tonic, feel its influence even after long stretches of time, and gravitate towards it. This is a hierarchical relationship, with the vertical being stability.
I'm referring to the analogy Schenker made, which you cited. Do you mean, "in reality" there is no analogy?
Hmm...I wonder if we could express intervals this way? The first scale degree could be "1", and the other scale degrees could be fractions: 2:3, 3:4, 4:5, and so on.The tones are subject in varying degrees to the 1st scale degree, in that the triads built upon them are understood in relation to the tonic, feel its influence even after long stretches of time, and gravitate towards it. This is a hierarchical relationship, with the vertical being stability.
We could give the triads built upon these scale degrees Roman numerals, like ii, iii, IV, V, and so on.
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The communal language of music that all musicians share - that is, the language of scales, theory, and intervals that we all use when explaining or communicating music - really has nothing to do with any instrument other than the piano, or with any other paradigm than "the music of white European males of the 18th-19th centuries.
Don't scream. It looks desperate. But I guess that since nobody is having this crap on other threads you also want to dominate, you're hoping that at least the theory crowd can be bludgeoned into submission. How about red print next time? You have some experience with that mode of intimidation.
By coincidence, I watched a video by that guy yesterday - the Worst Jazz Solo Ever. Biased theory is malarkey. Color for you, Woodduck. Composers of any stripe/dot/plaid are free to utilize theory practices from any source. What the audience decides to enjoy is up to the audience.
I experienced a lot of backwash when I espoused some ideas based on jazz. A lot of the theory thinkers in this forum cannot think objectively or outside the box, when it comes to various harmonic ideas. Once they learn the orthodox name for something, they are attached to it exclusively, and will attack any idea they see as an attack on this way of thinking.
George Russell's Lydian Chromatic Theory is a good example. When I showed that, harmonically, the C Lydian scale is more consonant than the C major scale (because of the placement of the tritone B-F in relation to the root C), this was dismissed as "nonsense" by Woodduck and EdwardBast.
Hello,
What a lovely video.
Music theory is racist, and so is the English language and math. Abolish schools.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifes...010-story.html
"Forgive me, Majesty. I'm a vulgar man. But I assure you, my music is not.“ Mozart
Although Adam Neely (as per usual) greatly oversimplifies things here, and the appeals to racism do not seem very well-substantiated, I do think he has some valid points. The way we teach music theory is parochial and outdated - even when it comes to analyzing Western classical music.
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