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No.
Yes.
Do you consider John Cage a great composer?
Simple and direct. I'm interested in knowing what the community here thinks of JC.
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“To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is inexcusable.” - Ludwig van Beethoven.
We can't really say he's objectively a bad composer if there are people who appreciate his music, (regardless how many there are). "Classical music" is only regularly appreciated by about less than 1% of the total population. That doesn't make it bad music. The same logic applies to "avant-garde music".
But I still doubt how much of his musical philosophy overlaps with that of "classical music". I don't think general "avant-garde music" is "classical music". But, I would not say it's objectively worse than "classical music" in terms of artistic value. I know there are people who are into "modern art philosophy" stuff, I respect their preference.
‘If you listen to Mozart and Beethoven, it’s always the same,’ he claimed. ‘But if you listen to the traffic here on Sixth Avenue, it’s always different.’ https://www.gramophone.co.uk/feature...anhattan-music
There are tons of genres out there that claim to be true descendants of "classical music". I just don't think it's fair to exclude them, yet include stuff like Cage within the boundaries of "classical music".
"Yuhki Kuramoto is a Japanese pianist and composer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuhki_Kuramoto
At school, he studied Rachmaninoff and performed as a part-time soloist in orchestras.
Kuramoto's style of music shows influence from a variety of composers from different periods. Most notably, by Rachmaninoff, Chopin and Ravel.
https://www.famousbirthdays.com/peop...-kuramoto.html
He was considered an heir to Rachmaninoff and Chopin."
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An interesting composer, and a groundbeaking thinker.
But great? That's subjective, but I don't feel it's a descriptive we should overuse.
"Do you consider John Cage a great composer?"
No.
I said no with a caveat—he's an interesting composer, but not great for me. I enjoy his works in a purely cerebral way, and while I appreciate his ideas, perhaps he would be less denigrated if he had less ideas and more substance.
But Cage will be Cage. I'm glad he existed.
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I've never heard his famous 4" 33".
If he's a great composer, then I don't know who isn't.
"Forgive me, Majesty. I'm a vulgar man. But I assure you, my music is not.“ Mozart
No surprise here.
He reminds me of Satie or Feldman, he composed mostly slow dreamy music that could be termed ambient. Not really a fan of that kind of music.
Originally Posted by Jacck
Ambient music?
"Forgive me, Majesty. I'm a vulgar man. But I assure you, my music is not.“ Mozart
nor do I consider him even a major composer.
I'm surprised you even consider him a composer.
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To be fair, JAS's statement contains no such information...
But hey, neither does Cage's music!
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