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    I imagine it's like the Tardis.
    '...a violator of his word, a libertine over head and ears in debt and disgrace, a despiser of domestic ties, the companion of gamblers and demireps, a man who has just closed half a century without a single claim on the gratitude of his country or the respect of posterity...' - Leigh Hunt on the Prince Regent (later George IV).

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    That's the difference between American and British pop culture. You guys bend time and space so Dr. Who can help people in need and save civilizations across the universe. We bend time and space so an anthropomorphic dog and a green-grouch-monster can horde a bunch of stuff they don't need into a small space.
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    I still prefer CDs, and I play them frequently. I have about 600 CDs and it would be a waste never to listen to them again. My CD player died a couple of years ago, and now I play CDs on my DVD player and I've wired that to my stereo. However, I can't see which track is playing. I haven't bought a classical music CD in about eighteen months, and I'm not sure I will ever again buy a classical music CD.

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    I like CDs so much I pay a guy in another state $50 a shot to convert my LPs to CD. I've used a lot of services and never paid this much -- but never been more happy with the outcome. Some of my 1950 Stokowski LPs (and 10-inch records) sound better after this guy redoes them than I have ever heard in any other media -- LP, CD, download, lossless, etc.

    It is pretty much a myth that everything once produced has gone back digitally. I find I still have to find the LPs and have them converted for a lot of stuff from 1950 and earlier.

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    Streaming for me.

    I hardly listen to CDs anymore. I still have 2,000 but mainly I only listen to them when I am driving. I don't buy new CDs and only occasionally will buy a secondhand box set which I can't find any other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Open Book View Post
    A minor drawback of CDs is that you can't zero in on any part of the music you want, you can only play from the beginning of the sections that have been marked off. At least I don't know of any equipment that will do this.

    Whereas you can place the needle anywhere you want on an LP or the cursor anywhere in an audio file.
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    I will always be a physical media owner, even though I also have a bunch of hi-res downloads (DSD sounds so good!).

    But with the continuing fall from favor that CD's are going through, I have been buying quite a few CD's on a regular basis. And the prices are also falling.

    I am also lucky to have several very good brick and mortar stores near me, which I visit several times a month to purchase used CD's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Open Book View Post
    A minor drawback of CDs is that you can't zero in on any part of the music you want, you can only play from the beginning of the sections that have been marked off. At least I don't know of any equipment that will do this.

    Whereas you can place the needle anywhere you want on an LP or the cursor anywhere in an audio file.
    I have owned quite a few CD players over the years (at least a dozen), mostly high end, and none of them have had the limitation to only play from the beginning, without the ability to fast forward. I even had the cheapest multi disc player I could find on Ebay, I was using while waiting for a new CD player to arrive, and that also had the ability to fast forward.

    Many times, the button to skip to the next track, is also the same button to fast forward. Hit the button momentarily, and it skips to the next track. Hold it down, and it fast forwards within the track. And usually, if you hold it down even longer, it speeds up the fast forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by larold View Post
    I like CDs so much I pay a guy in another state $50 a shot to convert my LPs to CD. I've used a lot of services and never paid this much -- but never been more happy with the outcome. Some of my 1950 Stokowski LPs (and 10-inch records) sound better after this guy redoes them than I have ever heard in any other media -- LP, CD, download, lossless, etc.

    It is pretty much a myth that everything once produced has gone back digitally. I find I still have to find the LPs and have them converted for a lot of stuff from 1950 and earlier.
    If you're getting 'em for $50 you're getting a bargain. When I do an LP>CD conversion it takes anywhere from a couple of days to a couple of weeks. It is A LOT of work to do properly! But you're right, in the end they can sound better than they've ever sounded before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Moon View Post
    I have owned quite a few CD players over the years (at least a dozen), mostly high end, and none of them have had the limitation to only play from the beginning, without the ability to fast forward. I even had the cheapest multi disc player I could find on Ebay, I was using while waiting for a new CD player to arrive, and that also had the ability to fast forward.

    Many times, the button to skip to the next track, is also the same button to fast forward. Hit the button momentarily, and it skips to the next track. Hold it down, and it fast forwards within the track. And usually, if you hold it down even longer, it speeds up the fast forward.
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    I find that the best argument in favour of physical CDs is that they are so pleasant to browse when you are unsure what you want to listen to (most of my listening is like this). Variations on scrolling down/swiping horizontally with little icons or lines of text are very inferior to surveying a shelf of discs. Folder-based browsing ("Beethoven -> Symphonies -> #3 in Eb -> Szell/Cleveland") is better, but you can only survey one level at a time, rather than all at once; and you either have to coerce performer-based CDs into the same format, or suffer the inconvenience of maintaining several systems.

    I've settled on CDs for music that I am confident I will pick up often when browsing this way. Curiosity items are Youtubed or streamed and quickly forgotten. This is great because there is no reason to have thousands of CDs, only the dozens or hundreds that will stand a lifetime's listening.

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    My preferred method is LP's. I began with cds but switched to mainly vinyl many years ago. The selection is enormous for vinyl, all encompassing, if you appreciate the performances of some of the old masters. I use Spotify, or my local classical radio station when in the car. At home though, it's always vinyl. Much more engaging and I like the tone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Moon View Post
    I have owned quite a few CD players over the years (at least a dozen), mostly high end, and none of them have had the limitation to only play from the beginning, without the ability to fast forward. I even had the cheapest multi disc player I could find on Ebay, I was using while waiting for a new CD player to arrive, and that also had the ability to fast forward.

    Many times, the button to skip to the next track, is also the same button to fast forward. Hit the button momentarily, and it skips to the next track. Hold it down, and it fast forwards within the track. And usually, if you hold it down even longer, it speeds up the fast forward.
    When cds first came out, some of them were heavily indexed. I have New World Symphony where every tempo change, every key change in each movement is indexed. So the first movement alone has some 20 indices. You changed the index with the remote. But it must not have been very popular. I haven't seen an indexed disk in a long time, and players no longer have the buttons. Nice idea, close to dropping a needle.

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    I don't have any particular love for CD as a physical object (it's fragile and the cases suck), but it's where most of the bargains can be had, and almost everything is on it. It's also a medium that presents music at nearly the limits of human hearing.

    So while I like to purchase music as downloadable FLAC files at higher than CD resolutions, I would still wager that greater than 80% of my music comes from CD... which I promptly ripped as FLAC onto my digital audio player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbhaub View Post
    When cds first came out, some of them were heavily indexed. I have New World Symphony where every tempo change, every key change in each movement is indexed. So the first movement alone has some 20 indices. You changed the index with the remote. But it must not have been very popular. I haven't seen an indexed disk in a long time, and players no longer have the buttons. Nice idea, close to dropping a needle.
    This, yes! ^^ I was just about to post the very same response. The very first CD player I owned cost about AUD $600 back in 1988 - no small sum (between $1500 and $2500 in today's money). Its greatest feature was the index button, and I used it frequently. I don't know when indexes were dropped, but that was the saddest loss to my listening experience, and I lament it still to this day.

    The closest you can get now is to skip to a specific time within a track. My current CD player allows you to enter not only a track number, but also a time in seconds and it will skip forward and start playing from that point. Better than nothing, but then you have to know in advance exactly what you want to hear and where it starts.

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