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    Giovanni Gabrieli (c.1554-1612): Canzon Noni Toni a8

    played by The English Cornett and Sackbut Ensemble

    Gawain Glenton, Andrea Inghisciano - cornetts
    Emily White, Tom Lees, Adrian France, sackbuts
    Silas Wollston - organ


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    Continuing my Elgar phase with Barbirolli's Symphony no 1 and Cockaigne Overture. Glorious performances both.
    "It's not enough to have a beautiful voice." Maria Callas

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    I used to think of Norrington's first Beethoven symphonies set as vandalism and never listened to his Mozart at that time. It turns out he was an excellent Mozart conductor. The work he has done in Stuttgart with Mozart is very fine but well before that he was also producing first rate Mozart records. I listened to the 38th and 39th symphonies.


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    Another live recording (which seems to be todays unintended theme) a random selection from the shelves - one of the way too many that don't get enough play time.

    Beethoven, Missa Solemnis - Robert Holl (bass), Eva Mei (soprano), Anthony Rolfe Johnson (tenor), Marjana Lipovsek (mezzo-soprano), Arnold Schönberg Choir, Chamber Orchestra Of Europe, Nikolaus Harnoncourt.



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    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

    "Life's a long song, but the tune ends too soon for us all." Ian Anderson lyric

    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet

    "Man does not live by bread alone......"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthusiast View Post
    I used to think of Norrington's first Beethoven symphonies set as vandalism...
    In my opinion, much of Norrington's first Beethoven cycle actually holds up very well!

    Even the Ninth, which is the most problematic in cycle, actually is mostly very good outside of just a couple very odd tempo choices (none of which bug me as much as Brüggen's second Ninth, where his has the choir literally shout "Freude!" instead of sing it fortissimo.)

    If anything is vandalism, it's the work of a specific, insanely overrated "critic" who tries to relentlessly and maliciously trash Norrington's achievements and reputation, which was well and fairly earned.

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    Checking out this set
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

    "Life's a long song, but the tune ends too soon for us all." Ian Anderson lyric

    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet

    "Man does not live by bread alone......"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorf View Post
    In my opinion, much of Norrington's first Beethoven cycle actually holds up very well!

    Even the Ninth, which is the most problematic in cycle, actually is mostly very good outside of just a couple very odd tempo choices (none of which bug me as much as Brüggen's second Ninth, where his has the choir literally shout "Freude!" instead of sing it fortissimo.)

    If anything is vandalism, it's the work of a specific, insanely overrated "critic" who tries to relentlessly and maliciously trash Norrington's achievements and reputation, which was well and fairly earned.
    Perhaps but I never liked it. I didn't much care for Gardiner's cycle either. I think they both caught something of Beethoven's musical character but lost another part. Gardiner's later live recordings of a couple of the symphonies was much better - I think his approach had "bedded in" by that time. I am keen for people who have heard Norrington's first Beethoven set and avoided him like the plague since then (I have had quite a few engagements with members who fit in that group) to know that he has made so many wonderful records and that his work is well worth exploring beyond that set.

    I certainly agree, though, that Norrington is something close to being a genius. And vandal would be too polite for that critic you are thinking of.
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    Something different from the rest of the days listening to end.

    Saint-Saens, Violin Concerto No 3 - Rachel Kolly d'Alba, Orchestre Symphonique Bienne, Jean-Jacques Kantorow.



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    I've been listening to this record for decades. These performances are so good.


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    Not a lot of listening time today.



    Vivaldi: the Four Seasons "Autumn"

    Adrian Chandler, La Serenissima




    Delius: Brigg Fair

    Sir Andrew Davis, Royal Scottish National Orchestra




    Strauss: Four Last Songs

    Esa-Pekka Salonen, Lise Davidsen, Philharmonia Orchestra

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    Scriabin, Poem of Ecstacy

    I'm listening with the score. I've never seen an orchestral direction "tres parfume" before.

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    Alban Berg - various works part one of three for this evening. I would be interested in a catch-all collection of Berg's songs for voice and piano if such a thing actually exists - the collection below featuring Jessye Norman has a regrettably short running time and omits the Vier Lieder op.2 and about 75% of the earliest pre-op.1 songs.


    Piano Sonata op.1 (1907–08):




    Twelve early songs for voice and piano from the posthumous Jugendlieder collections (1901-08):
    Schliesse mir die Augen beide [Close Both My Eyes] - song for voice and piano (first setting) [Text: Theodor Storm] (1907):
    Altenberg Lieder - five songs for soprano and orchestra op.4 [Texts: Peter Altenberg] (1912):




    String Quartet op.3 (1910):
    Hier ist Friede [Here is Peace] - song no.4 from (5) Altenberg Lieder for voice and orchestra, arr. for piano, harmonium, violin and cello by Alban Berg (orig. 1912 - arr. 1917):
    Vier Stücke for clarinet and piano op.5, arr. for viola and piano by Henk Guittart (orig. 1913 - arr. 1992):




    Drei Stücke for orchestra op.6 (1914–15):

    '...a violator of his word, a libertine over head and ears in debt and disgrace, a despiser of domestic ties, the companion of gamblers and demireps, a man who has just closed half a century without a single claim on the gratitude of his country or the respect of posterity...' - Leigh Hunt on the Prince Regent (later George IV).

    ὃν οἱ θεοὶ φιλοῦσιν ἀποθνῄσκει νέος [Those whom the gods love die young] - Menander

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post


    Checking out this set
    Please let us know your initial thoughts .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorf View Post
    In my opinion, much of Norrington's first Beethoven cycle actually holds up very well!

    Even the Ninth, which is the most problematic in cycle, actually is mostly very good outside of just a couple very odd tempo choices (none of which bug me as much as Brüggen's second Ninth, where his has the choir literally shout "Freude!" instead of sing it fortissimo.)

    If anything is vandalism, it's the work of a specific, insanely overrated "critic" who tries to relentlessly and maliciously trash Norrington's achievements and reputation, which was well and fairly earned.
    I'm glad some people appreciate Norrington's consummate musicianship and cerebral approach. I've loved the London Classical Players cycle for many years, odd tempos here and there or not!

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