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    Default Nobody composed "such & such" like "so & so."

    Of all the possibilities that could fill the nondescript parts of this thread's title, which would you chose? Which composer so set themselves apart from everyone else in a certain area of composition, that they stand alone, or as alone as one can, as someone uterly unique in...style, quality, drama, humor... Pick whoever stands out the most to you.
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    Bruckner. Nobody wrote so boring music.

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    String Quartets by Shostakovich. He sure knew what depression and anxiety were all about. A truly unique collection of works.
    Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.

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    The first one to come to mind is Stravinsky and the ballet. Prokofiev may have come close, but in sheer magnitude, Stravinsky wins the battle (IMO).

    Otherwise, Beethoven's piano sonatas. No other piano sonata set has stood the test of time better than those 32 sonatas which can only come from a prolific musical genius such as Beethoven.

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    String Quartets by Shostakovich.
    I would agree, if not for Bartok.
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    Beethoven - Piano Sonatas
    Mozart - Piano Concertos
    Schubert - Songs

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    Bartok - string quartets

    Shostakovich - piano + strings

    Bartok - concertos for orchestra (just kidding)

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    Domenico Scarlatti. There is nothing else in the Baroque era even close to a Scarlatti sonata in musical gestures and structure. The closest I can think of are the two part dance forms in baroque suites, but nothing has quite the experimental play quality of a Scarlatti sonata (that I know of). They are a genre unto themselves, a niche filled only by Scarlatti.

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    Raviji Shankar. Nobody spread appreciation of music as much as him. And certainly few people could hope to play the Sitar better.
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    Bach - sacred music (except Mozart)

    Mozart - sacred music (except Bach) and opera

    Beethoven - orchestration

    Schubert - song cycles

    Stravinsky - twelve tone music ('Agon' made it listenable for me)

    Tchaikovsky - mawkishness (not all the time )

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    Sacred music is more central to Bach's output than Mozart I think. Mozart was good in everything really but if I would pick a central feature of his music it would be orchestral (symphonies, concertos, serenades, divertimenti, dances. marches etc).

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    There are some people of the opinion that Handel was rather superficial, and I'll agree that he was a bit enterprising at times *cough* He basically worships the Queen in some pieces *cough* But he wrote some very evocative sacred music. We all know of his oratorios, of course. I'm actually a bit surprised he hasn't been mentioned for that yet.
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    Although I love the Messiah, there are times that I hate the way the music definitely does NOT match the words well. For example, "FOR unto us a Son is given...." Why is that initial preposition so stressed? It is definitely not an important word in the sentence. If the King James translation is the only one Handel could use, why did he not write something that did not stress that unnecessary word so much?
    So I guess, in my mind, Handel stand out as far as mis-matching music and lyrics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noestoycierto View Post
    Although I love the Messiah, there are times that I hate the way the music definitely does NOT match the words well. For example, "FOR unto us a Son is given...." Why is that initial preposition so stressed? It is definitely not an important word in the sentence. If the King James translation is the only one Handel could use, why did he not write something that did not stress that unnecessary word so much?
    So I guess, in my mind, Handel stand out as far as mis-matching music and lyrics.
    I don't think so. It sounds as if he was stressing the beginning of each phrase. Makes perfect sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noestoycierto View Post
    Although I love the Messiah, there are times that I hate the way the music definitely does NOT match the words well. For example, "FOR unto us a Son is given...." Why is that initial preposition so stressed? It is definitely not an important word in the sentence. If the King James translation is the only one Handel could use, why did he not write something that did not stress that unnecessary word so much?
    So I guess, in my mind, Handel stand out as far as mis-matching music and lyrics.
    Hmmm. I can't agree with this observation. In the versions I've heard the "For" is not stressed. "For UN-to US - a SON is GIV'n." You must be listening to the wrong version.

    Handel amazes me in what he accomplishes with simple words and music. In the recitative "Comfort Ye My People" when he comes to the phrase " that her iniquity is pardoned," the word "iniquity" has a an almost ugly almost dissonant chord (in that context) and then the word "pardoned" is back on track for the root chord in the home key. Sneaky trick.

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    Nobody could incorporate a cadenza into the flow and fabric of a concerto like Shostakovitch.

    Prime examples are the 1st cello and Violin concertos.

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