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    If you had to de-throne one if the big three, Bach, Mozart or Beethoven, which would you choose?

    And who would you put in his place?

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    I wouldn't de-throne either of them, but I would add Wagner and Brahms to the podium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allerius View Post
    i wouldn't de-throne either of them, but i would add wagner and brahms to the podium.
    Ditto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellerophon View Post
    If you had to de-throne one if the big three, Bach, Mozart or Beethoven, which would you choose?

    And who would you put in his place?
    Beethoven. His influence, which has been extensive as it is lamentable, has been deadening to the art of music.

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    All of them stay on their thrones, with Haydn elevated to join them at the top.

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    Nevermind.............................
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    Purely based on personal taste, I'd dump Beethoven and put in Mahler.

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    Beethoven is the odd man out. To be replaced by Rachmaninov. Then it would be logical - everyone loves Bach, Mozart and Rachmaninov. Beethoven is mostly respected - for his, as H.L.Menken put it, "extraordinary intellect" (btw, I enjoy Beethoven hugely, and have about 15 cycles of his piano sonatas, and may be 10 cycles of his violin sonatas, but the three most loved - B,M,R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    Beethoven. His influence, which has been extensive as it is lamentable, has been deadening to the art of music.
    Beethoven was rocker before rock was invented

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    I'd make Bach the King of Classical Music. Beethoven and Mozart would be two of his advisors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacck View Post
    Beethoven was rocker before rock was invented
    The third movement of the Moonlight sonata played on the electric guitar surely resembles Metal before Metal existed in my opinion:


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    Actually, Bach seems the more respected than loved although this probably changed in the last ~4 decades due to both recordings and HIP. I was a bit too young and not yet really interested in classical music but the double (triple, but Scarlatti was not a big deal in Germany) anniversary 1985 is one of the first things I remember in a classical composer context (besides Mozartkugel candy...). And it was certainly very respectable whereas the Mozart anniversary 1991 (with Amadeus having come a few years before) was a riot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allerius View Post
    The third movement of the Moonlight sonata played on the electric guitar surely resembles Metal before Metal existed in my opinion:

    That was great! It's not the way I would usually want to hear the movement, but a change of pace is always good.

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    Mozart out, Brahms or Sibelius in.
    Beethoven first then Bach.

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    I encountered the guitar moonlight some time ago; it works surprisingly well. What also struck me, that while the basic tempo is about the same as pianists would take (which must be more difficult on guitar?), he relentlessly sticks to it and is a bit metronomic whereas even "strict" pianists are more flexible.

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