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  • Neidlinger

    8 72.73%
  • Becht

    0 0%
  • Wlaschiha

    3 27.27%
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Thread: BARITONE TOURNAMENT (Bonus Matchup): Neidlinger vs Becht vs Wlaschiha

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    Default BARITONE TOURNAMENT (Bonus Matchup): Neidlinger vs Becht vs Wlaschiha

    Gustav Neidlinger, Germany, 1910-1991



    Hermann Becht, Germany, 1939-2009



    Ekkehard Wlaschiha, Germany, 1938-2019



    'Bin ich nun frei' from Wagner's Das Rheingold.

    Who's singing did you prefer and why?

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    Neidlinger's dark, focused, snarling timbre and his intense savoring of the sounds of words - I love those rolled Rs! - make him uniquely suited to the portrayal of villains, and his Alberich is iconic. That said, I'm also impressed by Becht, who takes a slightly slower tempo and employs a bit more dynamic variety. He also benefits from a better-balanced recording that gives the orchestra its proper prominence. Becht's Alberich, as recorded, comes across to me as a tad more intellectual and mature - a sort of Hannibal Lecter - whereas Neidlinger projects a more primal, archetypal quality. This is hard, but perhaps because Neidlinger was my first Alberich and has always seemed to me perfect in the part, I'll stick with him here.
    Last edited by Woodduck; May-06-2021 at 17:39.

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    Pass- I was more involved with the orchestra and found the 3rd conductor (whoever it was) to be the most dramatic.
    If I were to vote for a singer it would be between 1 and 3. Number 2 has a distinct heldentenor type sound to his voice the others don't have. If push came to shove, I guess it would be #3 but admittedly this is definitely out of my familiarity with singers.

    (I'd love to hear what could be done with the bass "Gremin's aria" from Onegin.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nina foresti View Post
    (I'd love to hear what could be done with the bass "Gremin's aria" from Onegin.)
    Send me your preferred matchup with links and we'll make it happen

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    Very difficult this one. I voted for Ekkerhard because he died in Bayreuth and this is (in my fantasy) a last act of commitment to Wagner.
    „Es gibt drei Arten von Pianisten: jüdische Pianisten, homosexuelle Pianisten -- und schlechte Pianisten.“ V. Horowitz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonetan View Post
    Send me your preferred matchup with links and we'll make it happen
    Thank you Bonetan.

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    Neidlinger owned this role in the fifties and also got the chance to set his performance of the role down in the studio in the Solti set. I haven't heard any to match his Alberich live or on recordings. Becht is new for me and he is an excellent Alberich too. Others that I like in this role are Gunther von Kannen in the Barenboim Ring and Andersson (I think it is) in Kna 1958.

    That said, there is only one Neidlinger.

    N.

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    Neidlinger is more menacing than the other two, so he gets my vote.
    "It's not enough to have a beautiful voice." Maria Callas

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    Difficult to vote indeed. Becht is most dynamic but Wlaschiha realizes the emotional climaxes to the fullest. Neidlinger is probably the best at capturing the drama of the moment (easily one of my favorite spots in Das Rheingold). Oh what to do?
    Neidlinger it is.

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