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    In professional sports now, there is lots of excitement with the 2021 EuroCup, and the NBA playoffs -- great!

    As for the National Hockey League, the level and kind of violence in the current playoffs is really disheartening. Now, people who follow ice hockey and notice the name of my home city may suspect I'm having a case of sour grapes. All right, go and snicker, it's only 54 years since we won the Stanley Cup! But with the violence, I don't watch the games anyway -- freeing up valuable time ...

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    Only been to one Leafs game. For me, hockey and baseball have to be seen live. Strangely enough I prefer to watch NBA on TV than live (but then I've never been to a playoff game).
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    Although I'm a long-time fan a long time fan I've given up watching ice hockey games, but still follow the scores. Anyway, speaking of things Canadien, the big surprise of the NHL playoffs this season is that the Montreal Canadiens are in the Stanley Cup best-of-four semifinals, and they are leading their series over Las Vegas Golden Knights 3-2. Their success is not unrelated to their smothering defensive play -- no, they are not the Flying Habs of yore. I do admire their longtime goaltender Carey Price who had a tough regular season but has been stellar in the playoffs.

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    Habs in finals. Hopefully they can end the drought. The country could use some solidarity during these horrific discoveries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil loves classical View Post
    Habs in finals. Hopefully they can end the drought. The country could use some solidarity during these horrific discoveries.
    Montreal vs. Tampa Bay for the Stanley Cup -- 40 years ago nobody would have believed this matchup. Tampa Bay is an exciting team to watch and Montreal is strong defensively. How about the goaltending battle: Carey Price vs. Andrei Vasilevsky -- can't get better than that.

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    In today's Globe and Mail there are amazing stories about players in this year's Stanley Cup final. The American sensation Cole Caufield (Montreal) won the NCAA best men's ice hockey player award last year. He started playing organized hockey at the age of ... two! Longtime Montreal goalie Carey Price comes from a tiny community in northern British Columbia; for key games his father flew him in a four-seater aircraft to Williams Lake, 300 km. away. After the team's victory in the semi-finals he said how proud he was of his mother's recent re-election as chief of the (indigenous) Ulkatchko First Nation.

    As for the defending champion Tampa Bay Lightning, their lineup includes star forwards Brayden Point, Nikita Kucherov, and captain Steven Stamkos who made a remarkable comeback from severe injury, while the defensive anchors include veteran Viktor Hedman and award-winning all-star goalkeeper Andrei Vasilevskiy. Surely this team is the favorite and Montreal will have its hands full, but anything can happen in hockey. Series starts tonight -- hoping for no gratuitous violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Knox View Post
    Series starts tonight -- hoping for no gratuitous violence.
    Hang on.

    Are we talking about the NHL, here?!



    ETA: this actually is a pretty interesting matchup.
    Last edited by Knorf; Jun-28-2021 at 19:38.

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    I played hockey as a kid in the 70s and my uncle was a pro player in the 50s. My dad and I tuned in to Hockey Night In Canada every Saturday night. But I hadn't watched a game in decades until last week when I stopped by to see my parents. I couldn't get over how fast the game has become. It's like every guy on the ice is Yvan Cournoyer. It made my head spin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorf View Post
    Hang on.

    Are we talking about the NHL, here?!



    ETA: this actually is a pretty interesting matchup.
    Yes I take your point. Excessive violence comes back every few years and Rodney Dangerfield's old line "I went the the fights and a hockey game broke out" rattles my brain again. I hate to see outstanding players subjected to beatings I cannot describe on this web site.

    Toronto and Montreal consider each other rivals in many things, but some commentators here in Toronto say we should put that aside and patriotically support our Canadian team. Others think that should not matter and we should hope Tampa Bay beats our rivals.

    Nonsense: both of them. I support penalties, suspensions, fines, and hiring a new "Director of Player Safety" and will avoid watching the playoff games till the National Hockey League turns the page, if ever ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    But I hadn't watched a game in decades until last week when I stopped by to see my parents. I couldn't get over how fast the game has become. It's like every guy on the ice is Yvan Cournoyer. It made my head spin.
    That's true. I played organized hockey back in my teens, and the speed now is amazing. My criticisms are focused on the current playoffs where the referees are hardly calling anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorf View Post
    ETA: this actually is a pretty interesting matchup.
    It is. Despite being down 3-0 in the Stanley Cup playoff finals, Montreal kept its hopes alive with a 3-2 overtime win last night. But tomorrow night Tampa Bay has the home advantage and it could be the deciding game.

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    It's all over, Tampa Bay Lightning have won the Stanley Cup and are 2020-2021 National Hockey League champions, beating the Montreal Canadiens 1-0 tonight and taking the series 4-1. Hockey in July in Florida is an anomaly, but the cheering Tampa Bay fans filled their arena and their team deserved to win. Montreal was an amazing surprise in these playoffs. They were a strong contender and I hope they continue to build on this year's progress.
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    It's BAAACK!!

    Yes the 2021-2222 National Hockey League season has begun, after an abnormally short summer layoff. Once one of the great franchises in league history, the Toronto Maple Leafs now are comfortably into their second half-century of not winning the Stanley Cup. I say "comfortably" because in hockey-mad Canada multiple revenue streams and other corporate strategies have ensured that they win on the balance sheet, regardless of performance on the ice. I suppose that sort of thing never happens in other professional sports ... ? Anyway, enough of that -- hope springs eternal. The Leafs now have 2 wins, 1 loss.
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    My wife and I visited Toronto in 2003 and fell in love with the city.

    We thought the hockey museum was great.

    Even though I am a Cap fan, I will be pulling for Toronto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arpeggio View Post
    My wife and I visited Toronto in 2003 and fell in love with the city.

    We thought the hockey museum was great.

    Even though I am a Cap fan, I will be pulling for Toronto.
    Thanks arpeggio, great to hear you enjoyed your visit to Toronto. The Maple Leafs get criticized locally whatever they do. If they won three Stanley Cups, boo birds would say it'll all fall apart. They receive more negativism than all other sports here combined. They'd be happy to know you're pulling for them, as am I.

    As well as the pro team there are fine youth hockey programs in Toronto. A young person I know received excellent mentorship in one that has helped him in many ways.

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