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Thread: Counertenors, yes or no?

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    Default Counertenors, yes or no?

    A pure and simple poll.

    My opinion: countertenors creep me out a bit - but in a good way.
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    Tennessee is a right to work state. I voted yes because we can't discriminate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manxfeeder View Post
    Tennessee is a right to work state. I voted yes because we can't discriminate.
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    I think countertenors contribute to society in a meaningful way. So yes, let them live!

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    Countertenors - yes. I love Andreas Scholl, and I like Michael Chance too. He is a patron of Norwich Baroque and we've seen him quite often. I remember he was singing a very profound piece in German about death once, in Norwich Cathedral. I don't understand German but I didn't want to look at the programme translation because we were on or near the front row & it seemed rude. But I didn't have to - he put so much expression into his singing that I could follow the emotions really well.

    However, I don't say that I like countertenors better than tenors - I do tend to prefer the sound of an 'ordinary' male voice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dim7 View Post
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    Right to work: meaning if a countertenor showed up, nobody at the union hall could shut him up. So if he wanted to sing, he can go for it.

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    NO, They do creep me out.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

    "Life's a long song, but the tune ends too soon for us all." Ian Anderson lyric

    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet

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    A refreshing no-vote!

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    Sure, I like them.

    Why would they creep anyone out?

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    no. they sound gutless, lack resonance and remind me of a middle school boy making sound effects.

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    No, they don't have to be killed but at least put them on a small island in the Caraïben.
    As long as I never have to listing to them again .

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    Yes, but in very closed spaces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingélou View Post
    Countertenors - yes. I love Andreas Scholl, and I like Michael Chance too. He is a patron of Norwich Baroque and we've seen him quite often. I remember he was singing a very profound piece in German about death once, in Norwich Cathedral. I don't understand German but I didn't want to look at the programme translation because we were on or near the front row & it seemed rude. But I didn't have to - he put so much expression into his singing that I could follow the emotions really well.

    However, I don't say that I like countertenors better than tenors - I do tend to prefer the sound of an 'ordinary' male voice.
    Have you heard Iestyn Davies? He is phenominal. I have seen him in oratorio, recital and fully staged opera and there is nothing 'phoney', 'small' or 'lacking in resonance', in fact he had the biggest voice of all the singers when he sang in Rodelinda at ENO.

    I find it interesting that you compare countertenors with tenors as normally the casting decision is usually countertenor or mezzo? (I'm thinking chiefly of Handel operas). Since I prefer a mezzo where there is a choice between the two I voted 'NO'. However, there have been some roles specifically written for countertenor (Oberon (Britten's Dream)/Apollo (Death in Venice)) and you wouldn't want anything other than a countertenor then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingélou View Post
    Countertenors - yes. I love Andreas Scholl, and I like Michael Chance too. He is a patron of Norwich Baroque and we've seen him quite often. I remember he was singing a very profound piece in German about death once, in Norwich Cathedral. I don't understand German but I didn't want to look at the programme translation because we were on or near the front row & it seemed rude. But I didn't have to - he put so much expression into his singing that I could follow the emotions really well.
    Was it this piece by any chance?



    Andreas Scholl's singing is wonderful here.
    ... yet for us will still remain the holy German art... (Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg)
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    Those who get creeped out by countertenors, obviously didn't listen long enough to get beyond the initial thought of "a male! sings so high! wohoo, creepy..."

    It really gets less and less creepy as you listen to the actual music and forget the notions of supposed weirdness it involves. Same way as most listeners who weren't exposed to classical music from early age have to get used to operatic singing, finding it awkward, initially.

    How could you say "no" to this kind of vocal excellence:

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