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    Brahms. How people subject themselves willingly to such trash I will never understand. Beethoven without the inspiration or innovation. Enjoy I guess.
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    When it comes to orchestral music at least, I cannot stand non-HIP recordings anymore. I love Neville Marriner's Handel, Haydn, and Mozart, but I just can't listen to it. It sounds like the music is being played at the bottom of a pool in the next room, the aural equivalent of spilling a water jug on a fresh watercolor painting and then playing tic-tac-toe on it with the largest available brushes. Why does it sound so heavy and blurry and ugly? I can't do it.

    On the flipside, I will always resent Glenn Gould for using that altered piano on his Bach recordings. That's what I have always read anyway, that there is no ambience or actual percussive punch on any of those albums because he wanted a more faithful sound? Whatever the reason was, I haaaate that twinkle-toed typewriting featherweight piano he used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchie View Post
    Brahms. How people subject themselves willingly to such trash I will never understand. Beethoven without the inspiration or innovation. Enjoy I guess.
    Count me among those who willingly subjects to Brahms' trash and enjoys every minute. I will never understand how one cannot appreciate Brahms' music but I guess we all have our blind spots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clairvoyance Enough View Post
    When it comes to orchestral music at least, I cannot stand non-HIP recordings anymore. I love Neville Marriner's Handel, Haydn, and Mozart, but I just can't listen to it. It sounds like the music is being played at the bottom of a pool in the next room, the aural equivalent of spilling a water jug on a fresh watercolor painting and then playing tic-tac-toe on it with the largest available brushes. Why does it sound so heavy and blurry and ugly? I can't do it.

    On the flipside, I will always resent Glenn Gould for using that altered piano on his Bach recordings. That's what I have always read anyway, that there is no ambience or actual percussive punch on any of those albums because he wanted a more faithful sound? Whatever the reason was, I haaaate that twinkle-toed typewriting featherweight piano he used.
    I am the opposite. I avoid HIP recordings like the plague. They sound thin and shrilly and I cannot stand the sound of period woodwinds. I do appreciate the transparency and detail they bring out but that is not enough for me. You can find transparency and detail in modern instrument recordings too, if you look hard enough.

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    Mahler. I've tried, I really have, and so have one or two musical friends who love his stuff and have attempted to win me over to it. The immense skill and craft he put into his scores is clear, but I just don't enjoy the sounds they add up to. Sorry.

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    Elgar.......tried over the years and really do not like his stuff!

    Tchaikovsky.....similar response to an earlier post.
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    I mostly dislike rap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clairvoyance Enough View Post
    When it comes to orchestral music at least, I cannot stand non-HIP recordings anymore. I love Neville Marriner's Handel, Haydn, and Mozart, but I just can't listen to it. It sounds like the music is being played at the bottom of a pool in the next room, the aural equivalent of spilling a water jug on a fresh watercolor painting and then playing tic-tac-toe on it with the largest available brushes. Why does it sound so heavy and blurry and ugly? I can't do it.
    I like some of the mentioned Marriner recordings a lot but I find both the recorded sound apparently much better (esp. the Argo/London/Decca were considered audiophile by some) than you do and I actually find them often rather too small scale, "lightweight" and elegant. Not heavy enough when needed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brahmsian Colors View Post
    Three pieces get the "no" from two of my favorite composers: First, Brahms' Piano Quintet, for which I have no aesthetic attraction, and second, Mozart's Piano Concerto No. 20 and his Symphony No. 40.
    I am shocked... I love all of them and at least for the last two I thought they were among these that listeners who find Mozart "too light" or "too cheerful" tended to like.
    (I don't actively dislike the Beethoven VC but it is not a great favorite either and one of a few major Beethoven pieces I find rather overrated, the other big one is the Pastoral symphony but there are also a few highly popular piano sonatas I am not too fond of.)

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    I say no to:

    Italian romantic era opera.
    Vivaldi
    Messiaen
    Hanson
    Modern instrument bands for baroque music

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    We are a very Catholic forum it seems. Threads that invite us to confess our dislikes and hates always seem to do well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bkeske View Post
    Not a composer, but Lang Lang. I just can’t.
    The disdain for Lang Lang is one I thought (some time ago) that I agreed with. But it does seem that just occasionally he produces really great recordings. Like his Mozart concertos with Harnoncourt and his Rachmaninov 2nd concerto with Gergiev. Those are both excellent records and I missed out on them for a long time because I believed on the basis of a couple of less good records and his reputation that he was awful.

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    His technique is far from awful and at times, as you say, that can apply to his recordings too, but (so far at any rate) his default position is saccharine-drenched OTT musical vandalism. Most definitely a try-before-you-buy artist IMHO.

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    ^ Try before you buy, certainly. And I have heard some of his stinkers. But have you heard the two recordings I suggested? I find them exceptionally good ... and it's nothing at all to do with technique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoFlutesOneTrumpet View Post
    I am the opposite. I avoid HIP recordings like the plague. They sound thin and shrilly and I cannot stand the sound of period woodwinds. I do appreciate the transparency and detail they bring out but that is not enough for me. You can find transparency and detail in modern instrument recordings too, if you look hard enough.
    I agree....HIP does little for me...i just don't like the sound...

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