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    Default A Game of Nations and Regions (Edition Russia)

    TC member advokat suggested a game of romantic works from various countries. I have expanded his concept to include all time periods and a host of countries and world regions. Further, yesterday I had the thought of additional expansion to include a game of composers as well.

    Edition Russia is my initial country. First, we will select and vote on Russian composers. Second, we will select and vote on Russian works. For each of the two categories, the top ten will then be available for additional national/regional games.

    Composer Selection Rules:

    1. You may vote once daily.

    2. When you vote, you will have up to 5 composers to select.

    3. Voting will end when participation significantly recedes.

    My 5 selections for today:

    Medtner
    Myaskovsky
    Scriabin
    Shostakovich
    Weinberg
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    Avshalomov, A.
    Gubaidulina
    Mussorgsky
    Popov
    Ustvolskaya

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    Stravinsky
    Prokofiev
    Schnittke
    Kabalevsky

    But, isn't Weinberg polish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allaroundmusicenthusiast View Post
    But, isn't Weinberg polish?
    Born in Poland, lived most of his life in Russia, and composed the bulk of his music in Russia. Wiki puts him in the Russian camp, and we all know that Wiki is always correct unless it's wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog View Post
    Born in Poland, lived most of his life in Russia, and composed the bulk of his music in Russia. Wiki puts him in the Russian camp, and we all know that Wiki is always correct unless it's wrong.
    Although born in Poland and living there until he was ~20 I believe Weinberg is usually considered Soviet, and as a lifelong colleague of Shostakovich I think of him as in the same school.
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    Rimsky-Korsakov
    Kalinnikov
    Ippolitov-Ivanov
    Glière

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    Lera Auerbach
    Edison Denisov
    Sergei Rachmaninoff
    Sergei Taneyev
    Nikolai Roslavets

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    Selections (23):

    Auerbach
    Avshalomov, A.
    Denisov
    Glière
    Gubaidulina
    Ippolitov-Ivanov
    Kabalevsky
    Kalinnikov
    Medtner
    Mussorgsky
    Myaskovsky
    Popov
    Prokofiev
    Rachmaninov
    Rimsky-Korsakov
    Roslavets
    Schnittke
    Scriabin
    Shostakovich
    Stravinsky
    Taneyev
    Ustvolskaya
    Weinberg

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    Sviridov
    Arensky
    Borodin
    Glinka
    Tchaikovsky (somebody had to name him)

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    Rachmaninoff
    Tchaikovsky
    Mussorgsky
    Shostakovitch
    Rubinstein, Anton
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    Tchaikovsky, except it's Boris Tchaikovsky.
    Tishchenko.
    Shchedrin.
    Khachaturian?

    The inclusion of Weinberg suggests some potential tough calls. Presumably someone like Lutoslawski would not be permitted because although he was also born in Warsaw, he stayed in satellite Poland rather than moving to the USSR proper. Would a composer like Khachaturian, Kancheli, or Part be permitted if they're from non-Russian Socialist Soviet Republics? Or only if, like Weinberg, they were sufficiently transplanted into Russia proper and participated in the musical culture there (of these, only Khachaturian, I think). Of course, maybe if Khachaturian is considered a Russian composer and not a transplanted Armenian/Georgian one, then Stravinsky would have to be considered French and American. Or maybe it actually doesn't matter very much.

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    Oh and Glazunov for my fifth

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    Eshpai
    Lyapunov
    Lyatoshinsky
    Skulte
    Tcherepnin

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixFootScowl View Post
    Rachmaninoff
    Tchaikovsky
    Mussorgsky
    Shostakovitch
    Rubinstein, Anton
    All of them are already taken except for Rubinstein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catface View Post

    The inclusion of Weinberg suggests some potential tough calls.
    Yes, and I assume it will apply to every country. I'll make the calls on a case-by-case basis.

    Concerning Khachaturian, he's on the list. The man moved to Russia at the age of eighteen, received all his formal training in Russia, composed all his music in Russia, and was considered a leading Soviet composer.

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