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    Hungarian conductor Antal Dorati (1906-1988). What are some of your favorite recordings. I waited too long to start collecting his stuff and much of it is out of print. But I love his Messiaen recordings.
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    Brahms symphonies
    Beethoven #7 with the LSO.

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    The Haydn symphonies (complete)
    Respighi, Ancient Airs and Dances, Suites 1-3
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    Both of his complete Nutcrackers, his Miraculous Mandarin on Decca and all of his Barton on Mercury

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    One of a number of very special Antal Dorati CDs in my collection ......






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    The Stravinsky Firebird is terrific, with astonishingly faithful recorded sound.
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    Apart from all the excellent things listed above, I'd also put in a word for his recordings of his own music. Whether he was a good composer I'm not competent to say, but I'm quite sure he was a real composer, not merely a dabbler or imitator.

    Dorati-Symphonies-BIS-1.jpg

    Dorati-Symphonies-BIS-2.jpg

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    - Stravinsky on Mercury (more legendary) or Decca (better sound), especially the Firebird but Le Sacre and Petrouchka are still very good.
    - Any other "orchestral spectacular" from his 1980s Decca recordings (Slavonic Dances, Copland etc.)
    - Prokofiev: Scythian suite, 5th symphony (Mercury)
    - Bartok; I only know the Mercury, not all equally good and some prefer the later Decca
    - Kodaly; admittedly, I got this more for completeness.
    - Tchaikovsky orchestral suites (basically the only major recording of this (non-essential) music, I have not heard his highly regarded ballets and symphonies but there is obviously far more competition)

    The Haydn symphonies were historically important but what I have heard of them seemed a mixed bag as is to be expected with such a large project. I don't know if they can be sampled by streaming; I'd certainly hesitate buying the whole box; the 4? disc boxes of the early 1990s can still be found used.
    I think his #90 is still one of the best (Rattle probably being the other main contender) but overall the Haydn discography has improved a lot in the almost 50 years since the Dorati was recorded.

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    I also have Dorati conducting the Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra in Stravinsky's Rite of Spring.



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    His recordings of Haydn's The Creation & The Seasons are pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreisler jr View Post
    - Stravinsky on Mercury (more legendary) or Decca (better sound), especially the Firebird but Le Sacre and Petrouchka are still very good.
    - Any other "orchestral spectacular" from his 1980s Decca recordings (Slavonic Dances, Copland etc.)
    - Prokofiev: Scythian suite, 5th symphony (Mercury)
    - Bartok; I only know the Mercury, not all equally good and some prefer the later Decca
    - Kodaly; admittedly, I got this more for completeness.
    - Tchaikovsky orchestral suites (basically the only major recording of this (non-essential) music, I have not heard his highly regarded ballets and symphonies but there is obviously far more competition)

    The Haydn symphonies were historically important but what I have heard of them seemed a mixed bag as is to be expected with such a large project. I don't know if they can be sampled by streaming; I'd certainly hesitate buying the whole box; the 4? disc boxes of the early 1990s can still be found used.
    I think his #90 is still one of the best (Rattle probably being the other main contender) but overall the Haydn discography has improved a lot in the almost 50 years since the Dorati was recorded.
    In addition to owning a handful of the Haydn Symphonies, I can stream all of them on Tidal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkasimer View Post
    Beethoven #7 with the LSO.
    That's a very good one!!
    Some of his recordings with LSO on Mercury are very fine...I esp like the Gunther Schuller - "Studies on Paul Klee" - neat piece...

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    Both Nutcracker recordings.

    The Mercury is one of the very best sounding and has a fabulous Serenade for Strings recording too. I have the SACD version, which is long OOP and mucho expensivo when available. A Complete Dorati Mercury box will surface with Tom Fine supervised remasters. It may be best to wait for that.



    The Philips Concertgebouw recording, which has had numerous CD versions over the years, is special because of the orchestra and venue. There is a sumptuous quality to the Philips set that makes it a must have, for me at least.

    The original LP cover:



    The most recent remaster:



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    Agree with the Tchaikovsky Symphonies (I have #1-3).

    I too have is BIS CD of his own two symphonies and I would say he was a decent composer.

    Here's one not mentioned so far:
    "Music in any generation is not what the public thinks of it but what the musicians make of it"....Virgil Thomson

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