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    Default Help identifying Gaetano Pugnani sonata

    On September 29, 1960, a concert was performed for the visiting King and Queen of Thailand at Villa Madama in Rome. Two pieces were played, a Luigi Boccherni piece that is easily identifiable and another piece by Gaetano Pugnani. This latter piece had no opus or other numerical identifying number. The only information printed on the programme was: “Sonata a cinque per due violini, viola, violoncello e violone”. The movements are: 1) Adagio, 2) Minuetto, 3) Andante, 4) Allegro Assai.

    So far, all attempts to identify the exact piece in IMSLP or by Googling have failed. Not surprisingly, no sound clips are available - I only have a copy of the programme. Might this ring a bell with someone? Thanks!

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    I have one tip for you:
    https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...=10&view=large
    Most of the recordings having sound samples .
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    Does it say who the performers are?
    That would be kind of a rare piece to play for 1960, but that might make it easier to track down.

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    Could it be the Quintet No. 2, Op. 1? The movements certainly fit, although the only recording I've seen is not with that particular instrumentation.

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    I believe I've checked in Presto Music already, since it's one of my primary sources for musical scores. But will try again. Thanks!

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    The performers were: Pina Carmirelli and Filippo Olivieri (vln), Luigi Sagrati (vla) and Arturo Bonucci and Nerio Brunelli (vcl, although one of them was playing a violone for this piece).

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    I've (re-)checked the Presto Music listings and nothing seems to match the movements I had listed. Also tried to find the Piano Quintet No. 2, op. 1 but wasn't able to locate it at all.

    Anyway ... thanks everyone. It was a long shot anyway.

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    Here's an interesting lead: a Pugnani sonata played by the Quintetto Boccherini (comprised of the ensemblists mentioned in your programme). It's described as "a 5," meaning for five instrumentalists! That might be the one! That might lead to an audio recording of some type, although finding it might not be so easy!
    Last edited by rhgliere; Sep-25-2021 at 22:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhgliere View Post
    Here's an interesting lead: a Pugnani sonata played by the Quintetto Boccherini (comprised of the ensemblists mentioned in your programme). It's described as "a 5," meaning for five instrumentalists! That might be the one! That might lead to an audio recording of some type, although finding it might not be so easy!
    Thanks for your efforts. It DID match the details I have awfully closely, but 2 unfortunates: 1) it’s still not possible to ID the piece ... I did some snooping on Youtube and while the Quintetto Boccherini does show up (not surprisingly, it’s a generational group though), there’s nothing the quintet plays by Pugnani, and 2) following the links a bit further, it DOES seem to suggest that the piece is a Sonata in E Flat major, but only for violin and piano.

    Oh well, thanks everyone. No need to bother with this any more. When/if I reprise this programme, I plan (hopefully) to substitute the Pugnani piece with another one, with the addition of harpsichord because I know an Italian pianist whom I first asked for help from and who is interested in participating.

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    Understood! Good luck with the project!

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