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    Question Assemble your ideal Ring des Nibelungen cd cycle....

    Assemble your Ring by choosing the recording of each opera that you would like in your Ring cycle.
    Which separate recordings would make up your Ring
    cycle?
    In other words:
    Pick 1 recording of Rheingold
    Pick 1 recording of Walkure
    Pick 1 recording of Siegfried
    Pick 1 recording of Gotterdammerung
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    Easy!


    Rheingold - Karajan

    Walküre - Leinsdorf - studio 1962

    Siegfried - Goodall

    Götterdämmerung - Knappertsbusch 1951
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    Rheingold - Janowski
    Walküre - Furtwängler (Scala 1950)
    Siegfried - Keilberth (1955)
    Götterdämmerung - Solti

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    While this not an official (i.e., studio) product, I just loved this “new” discovery from a cycle presented by the Royal Opera House Covent Garden in 1965. I would almost give up the Solti official Die Walküre for this account, based solely on the Siegmund and Sieglinde, but the other cast members are quite fine in themselves. What this doesn’t have, is the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra and Chorus.



    Otherwise, my choice is the Solti Decca Der Ring des Nibelungen all the way. There are several singers here and there that one misses (Flagstad, Melchior, a younger Hotter) but the sheer sound of this recording will forever be in my ears and heart. And, to me, Wagner demands great sound, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAS View Post
    While this not an official (i.e., studio) product, I just loved this “new” discovery from a cycle presented by the Royal Opera House Covent Garden in 1965. I would almost give up the Solti official Die Walküre for this account, based solely on the Siegmund and Sieglinde, but the other cast members are quite fine in themselves. What this doesn’t have, is the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra and Chorus.
    One could argue that what it lacks in ultimate orchestral refinement and detailed recording, it more than compensates with theatrical atmosphere and a realistic listening experience. Haven't heard this live Solti Walküre yet, thanks for the link!
    To me, studio recordings of the Ring are great for exploring Wagner's score, to get to know all his secrets of orchestration, the structure, the Leitmotivs and all the other things that you can discover with a super-detailed recording. My first Ring was the old Janowski, and it still holds up fine as one of the most satisfyingt studio Rings with a great cast and the best orchestral playing you can wish for. It's extremely uniform and evenly smooth too. After that one, Solti is more like a bumpy ride with various heights and lows.
    But I found that the artificial perfection of a studio recording can be tiresome. Listening to Furtwängler and live Bayreuth Rings like Keilberth's and watching Barenboim/Kupfer made me conscious of the fact that there's something lost when you separate opera (and specially Wagner) from its stage and audience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAS View Post
    While this not an official (i.e., studio) product, I just loved this “new” discovery from a cycle presented by the Royal Opera House Covent Garden in 1965. I would almost give up the Solti official Die Walküre for this account, based solely on the Siegmund and Sieglinde, but the other cast members are quite fine in themselves. What this doesn’t have, is the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra and Chorus.



    Otherwise, my choice is the Solti Decca Der Ring des Nibelungen all the way. There are several singers here and there that one misses (Flagstad, Melchior, a younger Hotter) but the sheer sound of this recording will forever be in my ears and heart. And, to me, Wagner demands great sound, too.
    Opera Depot have this complete cycle. One to watch out for in their next half price sale! Not for me though, I’ve already got it.

    Kozub is excellent as Siegmund and Dame Gwyneth is on great form. No sign of the wobble that became quite irritating. Solti live was a different creature from Solti Studio. His 1983 Bayreuth cycle is tremendous too.
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