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    Hi,

    I bought this set recently:

    https://www.warnerclassics.com/relea...chestral-works

    But it appears that they have added pauses between tracks. This obviously doesn't work for everything, such as Also Sprach Zarathustra.

    I can't find anyone on the Internet complaining about this, but surely this can't just be my set?! Does anyone here happen to have the same set?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsing View Post
    Hi,

    I bought this set recently:

    https://www.warnerclassics.com/relea...chestral-works

    But it appears that they have added pauses between tracks. This obviously doesn't work for everything, such as Also Sprach Zarathustra.

    I can't find anyone on the Internet complaining about this, but surely this can't just be my set?! Does anyone here happen to have the same set?

    Thanks
    Did you buy the CD or the download? There are some technical reasons why a download may have pauses, but I have no idea why a CD should.

    One more question - can you describe your setup?
    Last edited by jegreenwood; Nov-26-2021 at 13:38.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsing View Post
    Hi,

    I bought this set recently:

    https://www.warnerclassics.com/relea...chestral-works

    But it appears that they have added pauses between tracks. This obviously doesn't work for everything, such as Also Sprach Zarathustra.

    I can't find anyone on the Internet complaining about this, but surely this can't just be my set?! Does anyone here happen to have the same set?

    Thanks
    I have the same box from EMI, going to spin it next. Will be back

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    Did you buy the CD or the download? There are some technical reasons why a download may have pauses, but I have no idea why a CD should.

    One more question - can you describe your setup?
    Hi,

    It's the physical CD set.

    Full Denon setup:

    1520 amp
    1600 CD/SACD player
    1600 Internet radio

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerx View Post
    I have the same box from EMI, going to spin it next. Will be back
    Hi Roger,

    My dad has the exact same set in a previous release/print, but it doesn't have the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsing View Post
    Hi Roger,

    My dad has the exact same set in a previous release/print, but it doesn't have the issue.

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    I don’t have the set, but I just streamed the beginning of Zarathustra (from a version that shares your cover art) from Tidal. No gaps. I streamed it through the Tidal app on my iPad and through the Logitech Media Server to a Squeezebox Touch with the same result.

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    No pauses on Spotify.

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    Honestly, I’ve been on this and other audio sites for years, and I can’t recall ever hearing of a CD that could not play gapless. Thus, I’m left with some pretty far-fetched theories.

    Are you using analog or digital output from your CD player to your amp? What if you switched?

    Could the CD be a counterfeit - say a data disc containing mp3 files with the music?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    Could the CD be a counterfeit - say a data disc containing mp3 files with the music?
    Or even one burnt as regular CD from computer files (mp3, FLAC, APE, WAV) - I think most burning programmes have the option to add a pause between tracks.

    I assume you did not change the CD player recently (some have the annoying habit of automatically adding a pause between tracks during playing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsing View Post
    Hi Roger,

    My dad has the exact same set in a previous release/print, but it doesn't have the issue.

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    That was the message I had for you, sorry.

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    I have a Marantz SACD player (SA8004) which has the annoying feature that if I program it to play consecutive tracks is produces a hiccup when advancing to the next track. If I am playing something like Zarathustra and don't want the player to continue to the next piece I would ordinarily program tracks 1-2-3-4-5-6-7, etc., but with this player I can't do that without getting the hiccups. I have to just hit "play" and it works fine, but I have to remember to stop when the piece is over.

    So I would suspect a quirk of your playback system. My Marantz has a beautiful sound, but the digital interface/control features are pretty brain damaged. It has Toslink digital inputs and 99% of the time I use it as a DAC.
    There are two kinds of music, good music and the other kind. - Duke Ellington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Scarpia View Post
    I have a Marantz SACD player (SA8004) which has the annoying feature that if I program it to play consecutive tracks is produces a hiccup when advancing to the next track. If I am playing something like Zarathustra and don't want the player to continue to the next piece I would ordinarily program tracks 1-2-3-4-5-6-7, etc., but with this player I can't do that without getting the hiccups. I have to just hit "play" and it works fine, but I have to remember to stop when the piece is over.

    So I would suspect a quirk of your playback system. My Marantz has a beautiful sound, but the digital interface/control features are pretty brain damaged. It has Toslink digital inputs and 99% of the time I use it as a DAC.
    You're spot on, thank-you! How very annoying.

    I'd tested it on an old CD of Beethoven's 5th, but hadn't programmed it, just forwarded to the 3-4th movement transition, and as there was no gap I assumed it was the CD.

    It's a new CD player, replacing my Denon 1520, and a new CD set bought from Presto Music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Scarpia View Post
    I have a Marantz SACD player (SA8004) which has the annoying feature that if I program it to play consecutive tracks is produces a hiccup when advancing to the next track. If I am playing something like Zarathustra and don't want the player to continue to the next piece I would ordinarily program tracks 1-2-3-4-5-6-7, etc., but with this player I can't do that without getting the hiccups. I have to just hit "play" and it works fine, but I have to remember to stop when the piece is over.

    So I would suspect a quirk of your playback system. My Marantz has a beautiful sound, but the digital interface/control features are pretty brain damaged. It has Toslink digital inputs and 99% of the time I use it as a DAC.
    Never had that problem as I never use the program feature for physical discs. I don't even know how to do it. On the other hand, I use programming frequently for streaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsing View Post
    You're spot on, thank-you! How very annoying.

    I'd tested it on an old CD of Beethoven's 5th, but hadn't programmed it, just forwarded to the 3-4th movement transition, and as there was no gap I assumed it was the CD.

    It's a new CD player, replacing my Denon 1520, and a new CD set bought from Presto Music.

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    Marantz and Denon are divisions of the same company now, so probably the Marantz and Denon SACD players share the same control software and/or CD transport.

    Really dumb implementation, seems like when you program consecutive tracks it performs a "seek" for the beginning of the following track, even though it could simply continue playing.
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