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    I am not sure I have the energy to go through 23 pages of recommendations to see if this one has been mentioned yet, but the three symphonies of the Swedish composer Karl-Birger Blomdahl are worth hearing. The Third is the most recognised, and could be seen as a sort of Twelve-tone Sibelius 7th, a really tough nut to crack, but rewarding nonetheless.

    Leif Segerstam has recorded all three on BIS

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    Lutoslawski 4
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    Villa-Lobos 7
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    Raff 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by CnC Bartok View Post
    I am not sure I have the energy to go through 23 pages of recommendations to see if this one has been mentioned yet, but the three symphonies of the Swedish composer Karl-Birger Blomdahl are worth hearing. The Third is the most recognised, and could be seen as a sort of Twelve-tone Sibelius 7th, a really tough nut to crack, but rewarding nonetheless.

    Leif Segerstam has recorded all three on BIS
    You're the first to mention them. The general Talk Classical search function sucks, but the Search Thread option is pretty effective.

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    I'm aware of lists may be boring or not to say much, but this one gets together many interesting symphonies by relatively unknown composers. I've listened to all of these and I can say most of them have striking music.

    Felix Weingartner
    Francis Chagrin
    Marcel Landowski
    Irving Fine
    Richard Arnell
    Isang Yun
    Stanley Bate
    Erland von Koch
    Adolks Skulte
    Geirr Tveitt
    Lars-Erik Larsson
    Fernando Lopes-Graça
    Miloslav Kabelac
    Antal Dorati
    Benjamin Frankel
    Dag Wiren
    Gavriil Popov
    William Levi Dawson
    Yngve Sköld
    Knudaage Riisager
    Boris Lyatoshinsky
    Arthur Benjamin
    Aarre Merikanto
    Hilding Rosenberg
    Hendrik Andriessen
    Gösta Nystroem
    Rudolph Simonsen
    Matthijs Vermeulen
    Maximilian Steinberg
    Einar Englund
    Kaljo Raid
    Edvard Fliflet Braein
    John Kinsella
    Bo Linde
    Boris Tchaikovsky
    Giya Kancheli

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    I don't really see the point of endless lists, so I'm just highlighting one symphony that I didn't find in the thread yet but which I also consider to be extremely good: Volkmar Andreae's F major symphony of 1901 - his second. It's admittedly somewhat anachronistic, and smacks more than a bit of (the lyrical side of) Brahms in places, particularly in the first two movements. But that's not necessarily a problem and the work is quite original in its use of rhythm in the latter half. For me, it's one of those works that always offers something new.

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    If i were thinking of pieces that perhaps aren't as far off the mainstream (to me) but for which I despair of ever hearing a performance, the Dukas and Shapero symphonies are huge, wonderful works. I keep some eye out for such and I just don't think anyone is going to program them. And in the French literature that is essentially unknown, I think, in the US at least, I have a real fancy for the Tournemire 7th, but there are qualities that make me question how it would be programmed? A lack of familiarity with the idiom would doom it, I think, because it is fairly idiosyncratic in structure and temperament.
    But the Shapero isn't performed either, and it's probably the equal of any American symphony, including Bernstein or Copland or Harris. A hugely important work that just is set aside for ... I don't know. more Mahler?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mparta View Post
    But the Shapero isn't performed either, and it's probably the equal of any American symphony, including Bernstein or Copland or Harris. A hugely important work that just is set aside for ... I don't know. more Mahler?
    Set aside for yet another Tchaik 4, 5 or Rach-y 2.....ugh....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mparta View Post
    And in the French literature that is essentially unknown, I think, in the US at least, I have a real fancy for the Tournemire 7th, but there are qualities that make me question how it would be programmed? A lack of familiarity with the idiom would doom it, I think, because it is fairly idiosyncratic in structure and temperament. (
    I agree with you about the Dukas and Tournemire 7th Symphonies. I do not think lack of familiarity with the idiom would be a problem with the Tournemire everywhere, but it would be in some places. It took me a while to get into that piece but now I think it's wonderful, especially the Finale. I've never listened to the Shapero, but a number of people have recommended it and maybe now it's time to get busy!
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    CPE Bach: 6 string symphonies Wq 182 and 4 orchestral symphonies Wq 183 (they are all short ca. 10-12 min each)

    J. M. Kraus: Symphony c minor, c# minor, "funebre" (c minor), E flat major

    K.A. Hartmann, esp. #2, #4, #6

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