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Mozart Serenade No.13

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#1 · (Edited)


sa, ni, sa...sa pa ga ma ni sa
sa, ni, sa...dha pa ma ga ni sa
sa sa, ni sa sa sa... , sa ni sa, dha ma pa ga...
dha ma pa, pa ma ga, ga ma pa, dha ma pa...

eh sa...sa ni dha, pa ni sa, dha ma pa, pa ma ga ni sa...
dha pa ma, pa ma ga re sa, sa ni dha, sa ni dha pa ma...
dha dha ni sa, re pa ma ga re sa sa sa
dha dha ni sa, dha dha ni sa....sa pa ma ga sa ga sa ga sa sa sa ( vocals)
sa ni sa, sa sa sa

sa ni dha sa sa si
sa ni dha ma pa sa
ni ni sa sa sa ni dha
dha ma pa, pa ni dha
dha ni ma pa, dha dha dha ma pa, da dha dha (2) ( i like this tune a lot!)

sa ni sa, dha ma pa
dha ma pa ni ga re sa ( pa ma ga re sa)
dha ni ma pa, dha dha dha ma pa, da dha dha (2)
dha ni pa, ma ga ni sa
dha ni sa, sa ni dha, pa ma ga re sa
dha dha, dha ni sa...sah (2)
sa re ga... ( and also i like this tune lowering)

opening main chorus...
sa ni dha, sa ni dha pa ma
pa ma, pa ma ga re sa
sa sa dhi ma pa ga
sa sa ni sa ni pa ma pa ma ga
sa ni sah, dha ma pa, pa ma ga re sa....

sa ni dha, dha ma pa ni sa....

And the rest is just as followed the same tunes...!

 
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#3 · (Edited)
inadvertently yes...

So it was mozart symphony no 25 played during the starting phase of the wolfgang amadeus mozart movie shown as palatial dance when old salieri tries suicide....i thought it was mozart symphony no. 13, but its not!



I think then mozart music is based on this theme only! Here unlike others the rhythm clap music (taal) is constant!

sa ni sa sa, dha ni sa sa, sa ni sa na sa na sa...
sa sa dha ni ni sa, dha ma pa dhi ni sa...
dha ma pa ga ni sa (2)...sa sa sa sa...(dha ni sa) sa si dha ma pa si ni sa...

sa sa sa, sa ni sa...sa ni sa ma pa ga ni sa sa sa
sa sa dhi ma pa dhi ma pa, ni sa dhi ma pa (lowering)

Main
pa dhi na, dhi ma pa pa dha ni sa (2)
sa sa, dhi ma pa, pa dhi ni sa (2) (cheerfulness)

si si dha ma pa (6) variations
pa dhi na pa

chorus( just as symphony 13)-
sa ni dha, sa ni dha pa ma
pa ma, pa ma ga re sa
sa sa dhi ma pa ga
sa sa ni sa ni pa ma pa ma ga
sa ni sah, dha ma pa, pa ma ga re sa....

sa ni dha, dha ma pa ni sa....
 
#5 ·
You know very well how mozart used to say feel for his music....confutatis, maledictis, fa mi sacrimosadictis, (maledictis)la mi sacrimosadictis....! His death mass harmony sa, sa(dha dha)...dha mi pa sa, dha mi pa sa dhi ni sa...sa ni sa...sa ni sa...ol come' ol' comedene' ete ol come'...goes with the harmony isn't it?

 
#6 ·
For only the second time since joining, I've used the "edit Ignore List' function. Ahhhh, blessed relief.
 
#7 ·
I forgot to mention that when i listened to mozart symphony no.13, it makes me feel that music has its own vocabulary! Like every para suggests a emotional saying like as if in words...! Cheerfulness, rebuke, love expression, joyous, grief....!
 
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#8 ·
A papa-oom-mow-mow
A papa-oom-mow-mow
A papa-oom-mow-mow
A papa-oom-mow-mow
Funniest sound I ever heard
(A papa-oom-mow-mow a papa-oom-mow-mow)
But I can't understand a single word
(A papa-oom-mow-mow a papa-oom-mow-mow)
Well if he's serious or if he's playin'
Woo my my it's all he's sayin
Papa-papa-hoooo
(A papa-oom-mow-mow a papa-oom-mow-mow)
Papa-papa-papa-hoooo
(A papa-oom-mow-mow a papa-oom-mow-mow)
Doot doot doot
(A papa-oom-mow-mow a papa-oom-mow-mow)
Doot doot doot
(A papa-oom-mow-mow a papa-oom-mow-mow)
Well say there pop, say what's your name?
(A papa-oom-mow-mow a papa-oom-mow-mow)
Well don't you come around and show your face
(A papa-oom-mow-mow a papa-oom-mow-mow)
But hearing the sound I can't figure it out
Oo-wee this sound makes me stop and shout
Papa-papa-hoooo
(A papa-oom-mow-mow a papa-oom-mow-mow)
Papa-papa-papa-hoooo
(A papa-oom-mow-mow a papa-oom-mow-mow)
Doot doot doot
(A papa-oom-mow-mow a papa-oom-mow-mow)
Doot doot doot
(A papa-oom-mow-mow a papa-oom-mow-mow)
Pa-pa-pa, pa-pa-pa, Papageno
Pa-pa-pa, pa-pa-pa, Papagena
 
#11 ·
Bellbottom, if you are going to quote Latin at least get it right. Thank you.

Confutatis maledictis,
flammis acribus addictis,
voca me cum benedictus.

Oro supplex et acclinis,
cor contritum quasi cinis,
gere curam mei finis.
I read it as spanish-english(hindi meanings)...
 
#21 · (Edited)


If you hear the night of aria from amadeus mozart movie, it would seem the woman is singing in english-hindi language, but the script says something else that the plays'(the Magic Flute) actress's mother wants to avenge so she tries to fill hatred for her daughter's lover! Infact this song seems Queen Victoria of Byzantine virtues!
 
#23 · (Edited)
In the amadeus movie depiction of 'the Magic flute'...the audience seems of poor village communities from austria, hungary, vienna and germany. So in those days their illiteracy rate must had been very high! So they were white foreigners but didn't knew how to speak french, spanish nor deutch. So their main language was primarily english-hindi which was very easy to understand and speak in Byzantine Times 800 a.d.! (Legalized signature thumb impressionist!)

So Herr Mozart must have been favoured in white village people too!

Then in Queen of Aria the words spoken seem something else and written script is altogether different, which is perhaps for the village people to understand! And music perhaps brings binds them!
 
#31 ·
I don't know what's amusing me more here, what Bellbottom did or what other posters are attempting to make of it! (In the absence of anything resembling an explanation, it's not surprising that everyone's confused.)

Bellbottom, would you like some appropriate percussion with that sargam of yours? ;)
I suppose I should applaud you if you can find an inches long list of solfege syllables "amusing."
 
#32 ·


What kind of dual layer keys piano is featured in this scene of amadeus movie? How does it play chime music?
 
#33 · (Edited)
That is a dual manual harpsichord;
Musical instrument Piano Keyboard Table Musical instrument accessory

It only produces 'harpsichord' sound, with the sometime option of a mute stop, which makes it sound more like a lute.

There may not have been a keyboard operated set of chimes in Mozart's time -- what the movie showed, if I recall, was something like a celeste, but if it did, for the time period, that would be a liberty taken in the film, a fiction.

Celeste: keyboard operated chimes, invented in 1886
https://www.google.com/search?clien...urce=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=A8_hUf24A6rSygGUgIGIDg

Much about the film Amadeus (first a stage play) is not an accurate biographic / historic presentation, but was made fiction for the sake of making a certain point, and impact. There is no proof that Salieri, for example, was taking dictation from Mozart as Mozart lay dying, or that Salieri ever in any way tried to kill Mozart or have him killed. That is myth, not fact.

But if you wanted to present a play about Mozart, and show a lot of things about the composer, what better way than this second person character Salieri as a storytelling device? Brilliant choice on playwright Peter Shaffer's part, I think.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Shaffer
To think that much of what you saw in any film about Mozart is 'fact' is to be naive.

Here is a rather fine BBC produced documentary on Mozart, which I think you will find more than interesting. (the three links are the complete documentary)


 
#35 · (Edited)
Here at Veronabay mumbai, i sometimes visit a piano shop so its very amusing to see the wall unit piano and also the big ones! I like piano a lot and there are very cool neat clean pianos kept names mainly like they are imported Essex! There are even casio like electric pianos with several keys! The working of piano seems complex but playing it is really a cool experience!

I remember in my mind's memories visions that when i had time travelled into the 800 a.d. Byzantine Times i had tried my hand as Mozart on several pianos of that time. But none seem to be playing properly tunes what the listeners would like to hear! So just as in the movie amadeus i walked through lanes and reached a place on the ouskirts of the city where there was a music instrument maker shop. It was run by a short fair height muslim man. I told him what type of piano tunes that i would love to hear and he made for me a finest of piano which had made me famous! Perhaps it was that harpsichord!
 
#39 ·
Karl der GroĂźe / Carolus / Karolus Magnus ((CharleMagnus > Charlemagne))
Born: April 2, 742 AD, Herstal, Belgium
Died: January 28, 814 AD, Aachen, Germany

Reportedly six feet in height, a giant back then :)

a-Yep.

Ciao for now, I'm Trebizond bound.... ca 1344, then after that popping over to Paris to chat with Guillaume de Machaut.
 
#40 ·
I practise on this mozart piano no.20, i learn the key tunes in my mind...



It emphasizes on more tunes and brings out more music variations from the piano!
 
#48 · (Edited)
From MAXIMILLIAN times...

Wall cracking sound spirits winds gushing...
ghost-
Bon jorro et mi
at tera edmo
birelli svadsi
et von ve re

don giovanni-
arca li de ri ren
manfarosh ent te po dra
le porello ante' eda
lika sofia el erte porte'

servant-
a padron
a padron
la padron sya uty porde'

don giovanni-
van de digma

ghost-
ene' hermal' oh
oh svi marne ni che'
orthe mal ve'
esedi' marde' chya el' che elese'
pardre vyo dre drovadi vyo stre
adrab otro do pacini ve' ke dro'

servant-
ta da da ve lini stya dya
porodo male du' styo'
ta da le para ni srenkya
pe pla de male du skyo'

don giovanni-
en no way
make e de'
make vyo yi'

ghost-
ol good lord has called upon
et entem pod' endoro'

don giovanni-
wer' est esper lord?
sya dis spva'
wer' est espen da'
feur' van da' tis called'

servant-
ta da da va lini srenkya (2)
upar marde liu eson'

ghost-
er ve di vina shi estre'

don giovanni-
wez mein
theres no place for mine

ghost-
entity penjour de me
de ulte' ma' moment'

don giovanni-
ganinio no repent
herr de neno pan dame'

ghost-
entity el se' aramio'

don giovanni-
no enve' ni quinxott

ghost-
entity

don giovanni-
no

ghost-
see

don giovanni-
no, no, no!

ghost-
el se' worse'

don giovanni-
et si anybody told
ense' fakir zamir'
je pre dya varje'
le jyo te' ma' dro'

Priests chants-
le het te varte pordo
teri jama te' erde'
et tvo juma te' pordo
teri jama te' erde'

don giovanni-
et chitva de era'
sorostro

el' heeeee

creatures appears! wall collapses!

I think that don giovanni had himself conjured the black sabbath priests and architect of his own escape!
 
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