All That Jazz

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Nox

Discussion Starter · Aug 3, 2004

My 12 year old daughter is having her (our!) first Band Camp experience. Before we left last night, some of the staff put on an impromptu Jazz concert - 5 musicians who never played together before...trumpet, alto sax, double bass, piano, percussion...

...as I was listening to the concert I came to a conclusion...

...I don't like Jazz...

...it wasn't just them...although I commend them for putting together a 40 minute concert in no time at all...it wasn't, in my opinion, very good...it was the music itself...it all sounded the same! So what's the point?...

...and sadly to say...I was least impressed by the double bass player, apparently a prof. at the University of North Carolina (?)...

...they did well on a Norah Jones improv., but the rest was just noisy and was well on the way to giving me a headache...if it wasn't a Band Camp (re: learning experience) I would have left...

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PostMinimalist

· #81 · Jul 27, 2009

Anyone here like Basie or Thad Jones/Mel Lewis big bands in the late 60's and seventies?
I alwas forget this stuff but as soon as I put on a record like 'The Atomic Mr. Basie' or 'It Only Happens Every Time' I almost feel like this is the only music I want to hear.
FC

Mirror Image

· #82 · Jul 27, 2009

Marco01 said:
Wow, if so many people think jazz is boring, what must they think of the blues?

What are you even talking about? Who said jazz was boring?

danae

· #83 · Jul 27, 2009

Mirror Image said:
What are you even talking about? Who said jazz was boring?

Read the first 2 pages of the thread.

Mirror Image

· #84 · Jul 27, 2009

danae said:
Read the first 2 pages of the thread.

I would rather not.

BuddhaBandit

· #85 · Jul 27, 2009

Marco01 said:
Wow, if so many people think jazz is boring, what must they think of the blues?

Level of musical "complexity" does not always correlate with interest. Jazz and blues are just two different musical languages- and, as such, have no direct relation to the level of expressiveness. English is arguably more complex than French, but that doesn't imply that English poems are more interesting than French poems.

G

· #86 · Jul 27, 2009

Mirror Image said:
I'm not sure. I have that recording, but I don't listen to it. It's kind of a collector's item, so that's why I own it.

I got it with a 8 CD set and I have still to burn 6 of the others

I much prefer their ugly cousins the PJQ (Prestige Jazz Quartet). They definitely swing a lot harder and I like Mal Waldron's playing a lot more than John Lewis'.

I have not found any of their CDs as yet but will certainly give them a listen

one thing that I always admired was Milt Jackson's natural swing he could really punch a number along.

Bach

· #87 · Aug 3, 2009

This is a fantastic 6 minutes spoken by a genius.

Bach

· #88 · Aug 3, 2009

Do any other Bill Evans fans think that when he defines Jazz as '1 minute of music, written in 1 minute', he's being contradictory in 'Conversations With Myself'?

Bach

· #89 · Aug 3, 2009

ah ****, MI's been banned - nobody to reply to this then..

Dim7

· #90 · Aug 3, 2009

WTF is this banning policy on this forum? Have all these people who have been banned said something offensive? Way too much emphasis on "not offending people" in that case, IMO...

Bach

· #91 · Aug 3, 2009

yeah, agreed there bro. It's like a totalitarian state.

StlukesguildOhio

· #92 · Aug 11, 2009

Great interview. I remember Keith Jarrett discussing spontaneity in jazz and classical... especially Baroque... music in a similar manner... I believe in response to his live Paris recording which builds heavily upon the Baroque. Its also fascinating to note how the spontaneous nature of jazz went hand-in-hand with some of the spontaneous aspects of American painting (especially Abstract Expressionism) of the same era. One might also note that just as Evans was well aware of the precedents for spontaneous creation in earlier classical music, many of the Abstract Expressionists were aware of similar precedents... especially in the work of Chinese and Japanese Zen paintings.

StlukesguildOhio

· #93 · Aug 11, 2009

Anyone here like Basie or Thad Jones/Mel Lewis big bands in the late 60's and seventies?

Definitely the Atomic Basie... but I like earlier big bands as well: Monk's, Gillespies', Goodman live at Carnegie Hall and certainly Ellington. My preference, however, leans toward the bop era: Monk, Tristano, Charlie Parker, Miles, Coletrane, etc...

Mark Harwood

· #94 · Aug 11, 2009

Dim7 said:
WTF is this banning policy on this forum? Have all these people who have been banned said something offensive? Way too much emphasis on "not offending people" in that case, IMO...

Kind Sir, please allow this, my humble expression of disapprobation regarding the burden of your most welcome missive.
Your obedient servant,
MH

Mark Harwood

· #95 · Aug 11, 2009

Bach said:
yeah, agreed there bro. It's like a totalitarian state.

No it isn't.

Zeniyama

· #96 · Sep 1, 2009

I like Jazz in general, but my favourite styles are free-form and bebop. Thelonius Monk and Ornette Coleman are two of my favourite musicians/composers.

I don't really have much to contribute right this second, and I'm having a bit of trouble concentrating. I'll try to post something more substantial tomorrow after a good night's rest, a day spent at school, and an afternoon spent marching.

Mirror Image

· #97 · Sep 1, 2009

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Zeniyama said:
bebop. Thelonius Monk

Monk is my main man. One of my favorite jazz musicians of all time:

Three more of my favorites are:

Bill Evans

Miles Davis

Bill Frisell

Here is a list of my favorite jazz musicians:

Thelonious Monk, Ben Webster, Bill Evans, Oscar Peterson, Stan Getz, Miles Davis, Bill Frisell, Tomasz Stanko, Dizzy Gillespie, Tomasz Stanko, Sonny Clark, Enrico Rava, Paul Desmond, Duke Ellington, Paul Motian, John Coltrane, Coleman Hawkins, Zoot Sims, Clark Terry, McCoy Tyner, Bobby Hutcherson, Herbie Hancock, Sonny Rolllins, Dave Holland, Max Roach, Clifford Brown, Lee Morgan, Freddie Hubbard, Nicholas Payton, Art Blakey, Cannonball Adderley, Modern Jazz Quartet, Dave Brubeck, Art Pepper, Blue Mitchell, Stefon Harris, Ron Carter, Benny Carter, Joe Locke, Paolo Fresu, Hampton Hawes, Ed Bickert, Rob McConnell, David "Fathead" Newman, Bud Powell, Eliane Elias, John Abercrombie, Chet Baker, Gigi Gryce, Nguyen Le, Horace Silver, Marian McPartland, Tommy Flanagan, Art Farmer, Benny Golson, Michel Petrucciani, Maria Schneider, Bob Brookmeyer, Harold Land, Wes Montgomery, Shirley Horn, Diana Krall, Cassandra Wilson, Fred Hersch, Steve Nelson, Woody Herman, Jim Hall, Al Di Meola, John McLaughlin, Jan Garbarek, Pat Metheny, Shelly Manne, Kenny Dorham, Jimmy Heath, Johnny Griffin, Stan Kenton, Amina Figarova, Charles Lloyd, Frank Wess, John Hicks, Woody Shaw, Kenny Wheeler, Renee Rosnes, this list could go on forever...

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Aramis

· #98 · Sep 1, 2009

I've listened to a lot of Evans lately. He's my favourite jazz pianists since I remember, but somehow I forgot about him for some time. "New Jazz Conceptions" - awesome album.

Mirror Image

· #99 · Sep 1, 2009

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Aramis said:
I've listened to a lot of Evans lately. He's my favourite jazz pianists since I remember, but somehow I forgot about him for some time. "New Jazz Conceptions" - awesome album.

Bill Evans is one of my early piano heroes. "New Jazz Conceptions" was his debut recording as leader and it's a decent one. It isn't one of my favorites. I feel he really hadn't found his voice until Paul Motian and Scott LaFaro joined and formed the trio, which remains one of the best piano trios of all-time.

My favorite Bill Evans are the following:

This recording is one of the last albums he recorded and it has beautiful sadness throughout:

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