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It sounds like you guys are describing the difference between musicians and civilians.

even if you are just a passionate listener who can't play a note or carry a tune if it had handles, for this thread you are adopted as one of us...the musicians

for musicians, the music is everything. We actually know what we're listening to and what's going on

civilians dont know anything. The only way to make them happy is to put more straw around their seats

so thank God there are still some people for whom Beethoven is NOT relaxing. ..that means you are actually listening
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