Danny Elfman

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Captainnumber36

Discussion Starter · 2 mo ago

I theorize that the best art that stands the test of time has mass appeal and is original. I feel that in order to create art like this, takes an insane amount of depth of analysis and countless hours of exploring music that inspires you to develop your craft.

I find Elfman a true genius whose music is great as accompaniment to film and stand alone works of art.

His eccentric sound that appeals to the child in all of us really does it for me!

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Forster

· #21 · 2 mo ago

mikeh375 said:
@Forster...my first thankyou, thankyou. We need one for "your welcome."...

You're welcome 😊

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Rogerx

· #22 · 2 mo ago

Look what I found on my shelfs Captain 😄

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Captainnumber36

Discussion Starter · #23 · 2 mo ago

Rogerx said:
Look what I found on my shelfs Captain 😄

Listening now. Certainly a bit more serious for him and a more adult form of darkness compared to his more playful macabre he does for Burton, but still full of imagination!

Neo Romanza

· #24 · 2 mo ago

Captainnumber36 said:
Listening now. Certainly a bit more serious for him and a more adult form of darkness compared to his more playful macabre he does for Burton, but still full of imagination!

And as of right now, is he still your favorite composer?

Eva Yojimbo

· #25 · 2 mo ago

Elfman is one of those composers I can enjoy just on pure nostalgia as I grew up loving so many of the films/series he scored. Beyond the nostalgia he also has one of the most identifiable styles I've heard from any contemporary composer. Hard to mistake him for anyone else.

Rogerx

· #26 · 2 mo ago

Captainnumber36 said:
Listening now. Certainly a bit more serious for him and a more adult form of darkness compared to his more playful macabre he does for Burton, but still full of imagination!

It´s on today playlist to refresh my memory .

EdwardBast

· #27 · 2 mo ago

Why is this in the Classical Music Discussion forum?

Forster

· #28 · 2 mo ago

EdwardBast said:
Why is this in the Classical Music Discussion forum?

Because as you well know, it has been conclusively shown that film music is a sub-style/genre/category of classical music.

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relm1

· #29 · 2 mo ago

EdwardBast said:
Why is this in the Classical Music Discussion forum?

One could ask, why is this in the Danny Elfman thread? As far as I know, no one forced you to read a thread you knew you wouldn't be interested in.

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Forster

· #30 · 2 mo ago

relm1 said:
One could ask, why is this in the Danny Elfman thread?

And ask why this too...ad nauseam

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EdwardBast

· #31 · 2 mo ago

relm1 said:
One could ask, why is this in the Danny Elfman thread? As far as I know, no one forced you to read a thread you knew you wouldn't be interested in.

One might ask that if one were not too bright. Obviously, I was curious about what Elfman might have to do with classical music, because it never occurred to me that he had anything to do with it.

Art Rock

· #32 · 2 mo ago

To all: Let's keep the discussion civil.

Elfman composed music for classical concerts (e.g. a violin concerto) as well as film music that some classify under the classical music umbrella.

HansZimmer

· #33 · 2 mo ago

mikeh375 said:
Elfman has orchestrators for his scores just like most film composers do. I believe from talking to some players who have worked with him, that he doesn't write and orchestrate in the professional sense. Rather he works within the DAW as all do and passes on the music (midi) to be scored. At least on one recording session, I was told he had a keyboard in the control room and if there was a moment in the score he wasn't happy with, he'd find the notes on the keyboard and tell the team of orchestrators and copyists sitting with him to edit the score...all during the live recording session.

His approach to writing has created some memorable scoring moments for sure. The celesta and female choir in 'Scissorhands' became for a long time, the default brief for Xmas music from advertising companies. I particularly like the main theme to 'Mars Attacks' with its infectious foot-tapping rhythm, quirky vocals and musical nods to the 1950's.

Does he at least personally orchestrate his concertos?

HansZimmer

· #34 · 2 mo ago

Forster said:
Because as you well know, it has been conclusively shown that film music is a sub-style/genre/category of classical music.

Danny Elfman also writes concertos.

HansZimmer

· #35 · 2 mo ago

EdwardBast said:
One might ask that if one were not too bright. Obviously, I was curious about what Elfman might have to do with classical music, because it never occurred to me that he had anything to do with it.

You don't decide who belongs to the classical music world and who doesn't. He composes classical music. The fact that you don't like his music doesn't make it something different.

Even if someone has the strange idea that something is not classical music only because written for a film score, it must be noted that Danny Elfman doesn't only write music for films.

Bulldog

· #36 · 2 mo ago

HansZimmer said:
You don't decide who belongs to the classical music world and who doesn't.

You need to follow your own advice.

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HansZimmer

· #37 · 2 mo ago

Bulldog said:
You need to follow your own advice.

I'm not the one who thinks that he can arbitrarily decide that someone who composes classical music doesn't belong to the world of classical music. If someone is able to provide a better descriptor than "classical music" for the violin concerto of Danny Elfman, I'll wait for.

Forster

· #38 · 2 mo ago

HansZimmer said:
The fact that you don't like his music [...]

Is this a fact? Please show where EdwardBast has said that he doesn't like Danny Elfman's music.

HansZimmer

· #39 · 2 mo ago (Edited)

Forster said:
Is this a fact? Please show where EdwardBast has said that he doesn't like Danny Elfman's music.

Do you pretend to not understand the psychology of many people inside the classical music world?

If someone clearily composes classical music
and someone says that he doesn't have nothing to do with classical music
it means that he doesn't respect that composer.

It's simply a form of snobbery. It's like to say to a man "You're not a man". Do I really have to explain the disparaging purpose of similar statements?

Yes, the one towards the composers of film music is also snobbery. Nothing else. It's not a case if most people who oppose the inclusion of determined film music in classical music, don't like (so much) film music.

Forster

· #40 · 2 mo ago

HansZimmer said:
Do you pretend to not understand the psychology of many people inside the classical music world?

I don't pretend anything. My reading of the OP led me to conclude that this discussion is supposed to be about Elfman's film music. The OP can't come back and clarify, but he said:

I find Elfman a true genius whose music is great as accompaniment to film and stand alone works of art.

There was no reference to any other music.

I took "stand alone works of art" not to refer to his non-film music, but to the idea that his film music can stand alone (as is often argued here about the best film music.)

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