It amazes me how often you go to so much trouble to prove your point as I know people who own the cars and they say totally the opposite to what you are dishing out here. I have also owned several Vauxhalls and they were extremely reliable cars. Friends of mine who have owned Land Rovers say the opposite of you . Get the information from the ground not journalists. In any case, when the topic s racism, why are we talking about cars?
You haven't hurt my feelings at all. Why should you? Why do people like you always project? You are just saying discredited information which is your privilege. Just I have had personal experience. You can shoot wide of the mark as often as you like. Makes no difference to me! I read Edward Lear at school! Just funny that's all! Believe what you like - what difference does it make? This thread is about racism btw.Handellian, it is obvious that I have hurt your feelings, and that is sad as I have posted sources and links to illustrate a long-standing claim against Jaguar. Against that you have one--or is it two--bits of anecdote/personal testimony in refutation: powerful stuff indeed! Well, I have--as we recall--the anecdotal testimony of the Jaguar service manager that his dealership could make money on the cars if they gave them away. But, please, do post your sources asserting Jaguar quality to the present day--we all agree that it was a fine marque back in the Days of Hope and Glory.
Sources? I owned the cars!
I owned Vauxhalls Friends of mine had Jags - one has only just sold his because of an expanding family. Reckons it was the best car he had had and he is a petrolhead. Similarly friends with Range Rovers. No and I didn't maintain them with care as I hate anything to do with cars. Just changed the oil every year and plugs occasionally and they ran fine. I'm still working out what this has to do with race.
Wasn't Jaguar owned for a time by -- wince -- Ford? Impressive that they survived that at all. A colleague at my old firm had a 1960s E-type coupe and kept a photo of it on his desk. I understand the worst problems with the E-type started later when they introduced the V12 engine, which was not a successful concept or design. Still, he would complain that his coupe was not considered as desirable as the roadster, and was expensive to maintain and garage. Still, it was a classic example of mid-century modern design. A colleague I work with now has a late model BMW coupe reminiscent of the E-type. Not the same, though.Handellian, it is obvious that I have hurt your feelings, and that is sad as I have posted sources and links to illustrate a long-standing claim against Jaguar. Against that you have one--or is it two--bits of anecdote/personal testimony in refutation: powerful stuff indeed! Well, I have--as we recall--the anecdotal testimony of the Jaguar service manager that his dealership could make money on the cars if they gave them away. But, please, do post your sources asserting Jaguar quality to the present day--we all agree that it was a fine marque back in the Days of Hope and Glory.
I'm currently considering buying a Jaguar!!!!
Jaguar touted the V12 extensively in its ad campaigns back when I was a wide-eyed little kid using my allowance to buy the Corgi and Matchbox versions, which I believe I still own. Not much long-term collectors' value there, either. If only my parents had bought one of those Andy Warhol soup can paintings!
He was quite the legend. But I learned early to stick with classical music and forget about muscle cars. In the 80s, I drove a rented Camaro from DC's airport down Route 29 In Virginia. Not only was it unstable and tended to fishtail with its front heavy, rear wheel drive design, I got escorted to each county line by a county police car, with a new cop smoothly taking over as soon as I entered each new county. I later drove a friend's 450SL coupe on the interstate, taking it up to 100. It was very smooth and quiet up to 80, but it began to roar and vibrate above that.
I pulled up to a traffic light and a young guy next to me driving a souped up rag top with a souped up sub woofer had "music" blaring, though all I could hear was, thump! thump! thump! I turned on my classical music station on my meek little OE car radio at modest volume just to distract me, not to annoy him. Also, I had my windows closed. Well, this kid stares at me and turns his "music" even further up in volume! My Weber overture was getting in the way of him enjoying his thump! thump! thump! Perhaps the lesson is, even if there is a racist message in Western classical music, it is one capable of being drowned out.
