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Expanding the lifespan of one composer

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If you could have one composer live for 20 years longer than they did, who would it be and why? Assume that, during these 20 years, they are in decent enough health to be able to write music, but obviously take age and circumstance into account (I'm not sure how much Haydn would be able to churn out at 95).

Personally, I can't decide between Schubert and Mozart (probably the most obvious choices); they were both prolific geniuses up who died tragically early during a time that they both seemed to be entering a new stage in their artistic development.
 
#2 · (Edited)
Arriaga.

Just to say something unexpected. We have masterpiece after masterpiece from Schubert and Mozart already, and God yes but I wish they had lived longer. One gets a sense for Mozart's future in his Clarinet Concerto, Piano Concerto #27 and Magic Flute, and it would have been even more tuneful, filled with exquisite sorrow and joy at the same time, and so much more deceptively simple. I think every piece would have had that Singspiel quality to it. Schubert too. He was just beginning to shake off the shadow of Beethoven. His music was becoming more introverted, tuneful and unhurried.

But Juan Crisóstomo Jacobo Antonio de Arriaga, I think he had tremendous potential. He only lived until he was 19. His last string quartets were his first mature pieces and they showed a genius's grasp of form, harmony, and melodic inventiveness. I think he would have exceeded Mendelssohn and would have kept company with Schubert.

He was called the Spanish Mozart, by the way.
 
#3 ·
Addenda:

Pergolesi might be my second choice. One wonders whether that Stabat Matter was a one-off event or whether that was the start of true greatness. Wasn't he 21 when he died, or also 19?

After that. Purcell. We got quite a few masterpieces out of Purcell, but it would have been interesting to see what more he could have done.
 
#27 ·
Haydn was 77 when he died. Beethoven was 56. The question is add 20 yrs to their life. Haydn was productive to the end. Beethoven obviously had health issues but if he lived 20 more years he would have been deaf during this time and his music would have been who knows but the word "bizarre" comes to mind.
 
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He was 65 when he died. That's not a bad "innings". With annother 20 years he might not have achieved much if had planned to retire or simply play an instrument to while the time away. With the likes of Mozart and Schubert there is a much greater likelihood of them achieving further highly noteworthy works.
 
#17 ·
Obvious choices are Schubert, Mozart, Mendelssohn and Chopin, all of whom died before reaching 40. I'd probably go with Schubert as he died the youngest and had the most "mileage" left in him and I really dig his music.

A less obvious selection is Sibelius. Another 20 years of not finishing his 8th symphony! C'mon Jean, don't be so hard on yourself. I'm sure it's better than you think.
 
#24 ·
Ironic seeing he shortened the lives of two other people hur hur...
 
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For sentimental reasons alone I'd probably say Schubert but Starthrower's selection of Alban Berg could well be my 20th century choice. Even if he would provided relatively few works over another twenty years it's tantalising to think where his music could have took itself.
 
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Alexander Scriabin

The man with a messiah complex who wanted to end/transform the world with his music died from an infection caused by a pimple on his lip, or was it a shaving cut? Either way, it's ridiculous. Like many other things about him. Which also makes his end kind of fitting.
There's an opinion out there that he had also reached his creative end. But that's just speculation if you ask me.
There could've been a lot more. From 1910-1914 he composed Sonatas 6-10, Vers la Flamme, Prometheus, and a number of solo piano pieces including the final set op Preludes, Op. 74.
Surely he was not done composing...?
Whether realizing a part of his fantasy project Mysterium, or something else, the potential for more orchestral music on the level of Poem of Ecstasy and Prometheus, two pieces I absolutely adore, is why I choose him over all the others.
 
#34 ·
I wish Bruckner had lived longer and had been able to complete his ninth symphony and to put it in definitive form . But fortunately we have completions by William Caragan ( a Facebook friend of mine ! ) , and several other musicologists .
Basically , the finale is more or less complete, and only the coda is lacking . According to some stories , which may be dubious, some of Bruckner;s friends took pages of the manuscript of the finale as souvenirs when he died in 1896 . If this is true, who knows what happened to them !
If Bruckner had lived longer he would no doubt have made revisions to the entire symphony and there is no telling what a definitive version of the symphony might be like .
But I'm no longer satisfied with hearing the familiar three movement torso alone after hearing Caragan's version . The finale dispels the anguish and terror of the first movement and the deep longing of the slow movement and resolves everything quite convincingly .
 
#39 ·
Just want to derail the thread a bit for a fun fact. The charlatan ophthalmic surgeon who blinded Bach, and ultimately caused his death due to complications from the botched cataract surgery, also blinded Handel in a later attempt at the same surgical procedure, but managed not to quite kill him. Makes one a little bit more grateful for modern medicine. It's a wonder any of these old composers survived to give us even a few works.
 
#41 ·
Mozart would be my second choice has he seemed to be going fantastic places with his late works but ultimatley I think I have to go with Mahler. He would have completed his 10th symphony and, unlike Mozart, if Mahler had lived another twenty years we would likely have recordings of him conducting which would be quite interesting.